[F3A-Discussion] CIAM related news for F3

Derek Koopowitz derekkoopowitz at sbcglobal.net
Wed Jul 22 21:54:39 AKDT 2009


Hey Ryan,

 

I don’t see any reason why it can’t be held in the even years... when it comes time to decide then I’ll bring it up as an option.  No official timing has been made on the WC year since it was just moved off provisional status this year and will remain as an official class for 2 years before it attains a world championship status.

 

-Derek

 

From: f3a-discussion-bounces at lists.f3a.us [mailto:f3a-discussion-bounces at lists.f3a.us] On Behalf Of Ryan Smith
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:22 PM
To: f3a-discussion at lists.f3a.us
Subject: Re: [F3A-Discussion] CIAM related news for F3

 

Derek,

 

Is there any reason why the F3M World's couldn't be held on even years, as I am sure there are quite a few F3A flyers that would also take interest in competing in a F3M worlds, much like the TOC days. I can understand the logistics for the FAI to hold all of the different WC's, however given the similar nature and likely common pilot base, I think it would make the most sense to have F3A and F3M Worlds on alternating years. I realize that it's probably late to bring this up, but it's a thought. I also agree with Earl regarding the idea of trying to implement 1/2 points in F3A.

 

Thanks for keeping us in the loop.

 

Ryan

-------------- Original message from "Derek Koopowitz" <derekkoopowitz at sbcglobal.net>: -------------- 




Everyone,

Welcome to the list – if you know of any F3A pilots in the USA that are not members of this list then please pass this information on to them so that they join in on the discussion.

There are several items that I want to share and to hopefully spur a discussion…

1.      If you would like to see a rule change made lets discuss it here so that we’re all on the same page as to why you’d like to make the rule change and to hopefully get agreement from everyone as to whether it would be a good idea to submit a rules change proposal.

2.      Rules change proposals must be submitted to the CIAM before November 15th, 2010 (that’s right – next year) – any rules change proposal submitted will be voted on at the March CIAM meeting in 2011 and will become effective in 2012.

3.      The P13/F13 and P15/F15 schedules need to be designed and submitted.  Any NAC (country) can do this but the schedules must be totally vetted and tested with all bugs worked out prior to submission – we also must include full maneuver descriptions with all possible deductions with the submissions.  Deadline for this is again November 15th, 2010.

Rules change proposals are not just for F3A – the F3 sub-committee is also responsible for F3M and F3P.  For those of you not familiar with F3M – it is for large aerobatic models not exceeding 20kg in weight (ala TOC/IMAC models).  F3P is indoor aerobatics with models not to exceed 300g in weight.  F3M was just voted into a regular status starting in 2009 with the potential to host a world championship event for F3M starting in 2011.  The same can be said about F3P.  We’ve seen huge successes over here with F3P so far and the number of contests is growing every year.  Events such as the e-TOC definitely help with interest although it is my understanding that they do not use the F3P schedules.

Since IMAC has no interest in pursuing F3M, it is really up to us to do this and to perhaps influence the rules and schedules somewhat – I can definitely see the benefits of pushing F3M and F3P (perhaps the NSRCA can adopt both categories?) within the USA and to perhaps one day host a World Championships for both F3M and F3P.

The sooner we talk about these potential rules changes, the better.  I can then “socialize” these with my peers on the F3 sub-committee to see what their take is…

-Derek

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