Fwd: European Champs, Alcochete, Portugal 2004

Joe Lachowski jlachow at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 6 16:14:11 AKDT 2004 

Yeah, but does it have to be beaten to death a multitude of times?  Once or 
twice is enough to get the point across.

Mr. Van Putte and his associate Mr. Fuqua have managed to get a lot of 
Pattern pilots that I have talked to pissed off with their shananigans. I 
have lost respect for these individuals. They are not doing things in the 
best interest of the majority of pattern flyers today. Enough said. I am a 
very easy going individual and it takes an awful lot for me to get this 
agitated.


>From: Bill Glaze <billglaze at triad.rr.com>
>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>Subject: Re: Fwd: European Champs, Alcochete, Portugal 2004
>Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2004 19:13:41 -0400
>
>Joe:
>I would like to raise the idea that things like this, perhaps, are just 
>what the membership needs to know is going on.  I hope that informing us is 
>the idea here; I hope that there are no private axes to grind; if so, they 
>will quickly out.  If there is somebody else running for office, I feel 
>that it is possible that information like this will make people aware of 
>just why they should vote a certain way.  I hope.  An informed 
>electorate............well, you get the idea.
>Bill Glaze
>
>
>Joe Lachowski wrote:
>
>>Ron could you please leave be already. This is not the place to air this 
>>stuff.  This is something the NSRCA executive needs to handle between it 
>>and the AMA.  Hope you're not voting for the incumbent in the coming AMA 
>>election. <g>.
>>
>>Vote Dave Mathewson for Pesident.
>>
>>
>>>From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>Subject: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2004 09:58:41 -0500
>>>
>>>All - Another e-mail I got  from Bengt-Eric Soderstrom follows.  I find 
>>>it interesting that Bob Skinner (from South Africa, who is the chairman 
>>>of the international committee for F3A world championships) said that Bob 
>>>Noll would be the next U.S. world championships judge, when it is up to a 
>>>country to submit a list of potential judge candidates and the 
>>>responsibility of the host country's  organizing committee to select from 
>>>the list.
>>>
>>>Ron Van Putte
>>>
>>>Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>>From: Bengt-Erik Soderstrom <bes at wll.swipnet.se>
>>>>Date: September 6, 2004 9:30:04 AM CDT
>>>>To: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>>>Subject: Re: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>
>>>>Hi again Ron,
>>>>
>>>>Again about Bob Noll:
>>>>
>>>>The information I wrote (below) I got from Bob Skinner now, two weeks 
>>>>ago,  in Portugal.. He said that Bob Noll would be the next U.S judge, 
>>>>and found it good that he was - on his own initiative - training himself 
>>>>in Poland.. He also had some comments about U.S judges being appointed 
>>>>for a two-year period, which means that U.S.A will on each World Champs 
>>>>have a rookie judge, and it would be better if they could at least be 
>>>>listed and available for 2  WCs.
>>>>But of course, AMA is the U.S body to make the official judges list for 
>>>>the U.S.A.
>>>>
>>>>I also hope our paths will cross again, why don't you come to France 
>>>>next year?
>>>>Would be nice ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>All the best
>>>>
>>>>Bengt-Erik
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ron Van Putte wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Bengt-Eric - Nice to hear from you.  Thanks for the report on the 
>>>>>European Champs.  I forwarded it to our R/C aerobatics discussion list 
>>>>>to let them know about the European Champs and what you said about Bob 
>>>>>Noll.  When you read the way I prefaced your e-mail, you will 
>>>>>understand.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good luck.  I hope our paths cross in the future.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ron Van Putte
>>>>>
>>>>>Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: Ron Van Putte <vanputte at cox.net>
>>>>>>Date: September 5, 2004 3:20:36 PM CDT
>>>>>>To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>>Subject: Fwd: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>>>Reply-To: discussion at nsrca.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>All - I just got the forwarded e-mail from Bengt-Erik Soderstrom, who 
>>>>>>is a Swedish F3A judge.  I met him at the 1995 F3A World Championships 
>>>>>>in Kasaoka, Japan.  We hung out together throughout the event.  We 
>>>>>>renewed our acquaintance at the 1999 F3A World Championships in 
>>>>>>Pensacola, FL.  In fact, his return flight was out of New Orleans, so 
>>>>>>I took him over there a day early and we spent the afternoon/evening 
>>>>>>at the French Quarter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You will note that he refers to Bob Noll as THE U.S. judge for the 
>>>>>>next F3A World Championships.  This despite the fact that the list of 
>>>>>>the top five U.S. judges is just now being sent to the 2005 F3A World 
>>>>>>Championships organizing committee and Bob Noll is the fourth-ranked 
>>>>>>judge.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This all started when Bob announced to me at the 2003 F3A Team 
>>>>>>Selection Finals that he was to be the U.S. judge in 2005.  He paid 
>>>>>>his own way to Poland and announced there that he was to be the U.S. 
>>>>>>judge in 2005.  He managed to get into all the judging functions and 
>>>>>>did practice judging with the actual judges.   This is a very curious 
>>>>>>situation.  How Noll can be so sure that he will be the 2005 U.S. 
>>>>>>judge is beyond me, unless he has a high-level AMA official as a 
>>>>>>sponsor (read Dave Brown).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Here's Bengt-Eric's e-mail:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ron Van Putte
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>From: Bengt-Erik Soderstrom <bes at wll.swipnet.se>
>>>>>>>Date: September 5, 2004 1:50:59 PM CDT
>>>>>>>To: vanputte at cox.net
>>>>>>>Subject: European Champs,  Alcochete, Portugal  2004
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi there Ron, long time, no see...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I think it would be interesting for you to get a small report from 
>>>>>>>the 2004 EU Champs in F3A, just recently held, all seen through a 
>>>>>>>judge's eye
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Winner this time was Roland Matt  - Wolfgangs son
>>>>>>>2nd was Christophe Paysant-Le Roux
>>>>>>>3rd was Wolfgang Matt
>>>>>>>It was during the whole competition very close between Roland and 
>>>>>>>Christophe. It was a tie in the finals, so then the semi finals 
>>>>>>>results needed to be used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>The Matts were flying their latest: the Lazulite and this time the 
>>>>>>>electric version.  Weight of their models were 4950 grams incl 
>>>>>>>battery.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It looks like that this event was really the breakthrough for the 
>>>>>>>electric power-plants. Many pilots in spite of the very high pricetag 
>>>>>>>flew electric models.
>>>>>>>(Electric engine incl regulating electronics, gearbox etc.: About 
>>>>>>>1.000 US$, Battery pack about 800 $.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I heard that in the next year's World Champs, to be held in St-Yan in 
>>>>>>>France.  Bob Noll has been chosen as the U.S judge. I met him in 
>>>>>>>Poland last year, he is a good guy and he is very welcome into the 
>>>>>>>club.  St-Yan is a small town not easily found on the maps, but it is 
>>>>>>>situated about half way between Paris and Lyon, right in the center 
>>>>>>>of the best wine districts in France.
>>>>>>>If you happen to met him, please give him my regards.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Word goes around that the 2007 World champs will go to Canada, we 
>>>>>>>will see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I hope everything is well with you, Ron. I wish you and your wife all 
>>>>>>>the best.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Bengt-Erik Soderstrom
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
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