[NSRCA-discussion] SODA BOTTLE FUEL TANK

jivey61 at bellsouth.net jivey61 at bellsouth.net
Sat Feb 18 06:51:10 AKST 2006


Steve
 The more of these cans that you emtpy and weigh the more the error possibility.

Jim Ivey
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: spbyrum 
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  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 10:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] SODA BOTTLE FUEL TANK


  It might be necessary to weigh a large number of these cans, both with and without contents, in order to get an average weight.  As there is no data on quality control during the manufacture of these cans, the weight of the cans themselves could vary greatly.

   

  Steve Byrum 

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  From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of brian young
  Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 8:53 AM
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  Anyone seen the aluminum bear bottle shaped bear cans? Wonder what those weight empty.....could be an interesting excercise some evening.....

  Ed Miller <edbon85 at charter.net> wrote: 

  Won't it still shrink in the cold ??

  Ed M.

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    From: Dean Pappas 

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    Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:23 PM

    Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] SODA BOTTLE FUEL TANK

     

    The bottle that rubbing alchohol is typically sold in is made of polyethylene. They are typically very thin walled, and light.

    Maybe this would solve some of your shrinkage problems?.

     

    Dean Pappas 
    Sr. Design Engineer 
    Kodeos Communications 
    111 Corporate Blvd. 
    South Plainfield, N.J. 07080 
    (908) 222-7817 phone 
    (908) 222-2392 fax 
    d.pappas at kodeos.com 

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      From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of jivey61 at bellsouth.net
      Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:17 PM
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      Wayne

       I just flew the coke bottle tank today and I get 15 minutes on 24 oz of fuel.It actually draws fuel down to 1 oz in the tank,doing the Masters pattern.

      The upside is I don't have to fill it full to complete the pattern. The weight savings is 2.5 oz using this tank.

       To review...... this was a 33 oz, 1 liter coke bottle' that I pickled with 30 % heli for 2 months.

       ! 

      Jim Ivey

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        From: Wayne Galligan 

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        Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 8:28 AM

        Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] SODA BOTTLE FUEL TANK

         

        Wow!!!  24 oz....    I can fly 15 min. on the 15.9 oz. bottle with my OS 1.40.  I was wondering why these wide body planes started getting so popular.... got to have'em so you can put a big en! ough fuel tank in them.

         

        Wayne

         

          ----- Original Message ----- 

          From: jivey61 at bellsouth.net 

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          Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:36 PM

          Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] SODA BOTTLE FUEL TANK

           

          Wayne

           I was getting ready to update my experiment with the 33 oz coke bottle filled with fuel 30%. I let it sit and shrink for 2 months,then when! it appeared to stop shrinking I removed the fuel and carefully measured the volume.The bottle started life as 33 oz,1 liter and now holds 24 oz liquid. Which is perfect for a thirsty 160 DZ with a 4 blade prop.I have it in my Smaragd and will fly (test) tomorrow. Should work fine and no more shrinking.

           

          Jim Ivey

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            From: Wayne Galligan 

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            Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 6:21 PM

            Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] SODA BOTTLE FUEL TANK

             

            FYI...   I had a conversation with a flying friend the other day about the
            soda bottle fuel tanks and the way they shrink.  He happens to work for
            Pepsi and explained to me that the bottles are blow molded.  He said if they
            are not used with in a certain period of time that the memory in the plastic
            takes over and they will shrink in size and then they have to discard the
            old bottles.  The carbonized soda keeps the shape of the bottle till used.
            He said that most likely the nitro content speeds up the process and could
            explain why some of you using them with higher then 15% nitro are
            experiencing this phenomenon.
            So.... drink another one.... rinse and fill.

            Wayne Galligan


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