[NSRCA-discussion] Fact/Rumor?

Mon Feb 27 07:12:20 AKST 2006

On Feb 27, 2006, at 9:53 AM, DaveL322 at comcast.net wrote:

> Legal in terms of the FCC and legal in terms of AMA may not be the  
> same, but in anycase, the AMA would not advocate the use of a radio  
> system which has not been approved by the FCC for the specific use.
>
> None of the radio manufacturers would advocate the type of  
> modification discussed.  AMA requires equipment be used within  
> limits/guidance put forth by the manufacturers.

The story I've just been told is that the Spektrum people originally  
designed their transmitter RF for the JR 6102.  They offered their  
system to JR, who refused.  Then the Spektrum people tried to buy  
6102 transmitters from JR, who refused again, because they'd have a  
competitor selling a system competing with what they were selling.   
Instead, JR offered to sell the Spektrum people surplus old 662  
transmitters.  So, that's how the Spektrum system was finally marketed.

Ron Van Putte

> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Dave Harmon" <K6XYZ at valornet.com>
> The JR 6102 is FCC certified with the standard JR module.
>
> The 6102 mainframe is not certified to operate with the Specktrum  
> RF module and vise versa.
>
> If Larry has it tested and assuming it passes the certification  
> tests, the paperwork must be sent to the FCC.
>
> They may not certify the combination anyway because Larry is not  
> the mfgr of either equipment.
>
> If the FCC does pass it Larry will have to have the proper  
> ‘stickers’ made up to put on the transmitter etc, etc.
>
> I’ve previously been involved with this certification process and  
> it is a real hassle.
>
> Definitely not worth fooling around with unless you are the mfgr of  
> the equipment involved…..and I don’t think the
>
> FCC will cert it anyway…regardless of the tests.
>
> In this case, I think the AMA is correct, especially from a  
> liability standpoint.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Dave Harmon
> NSRCA 586
> K6XYZ[at]valornet[dot]com
> Broken Arrow, Ok.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca- 
> discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of Rick Kent
> Sent: Monday, February 27, 2006 8:56 AM
> To: Cameron Smith; NSRCA Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fact/Rumor?
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>
> Would that friend's name be Larry?
>
>
>
> If so, anyone interested in the details can read all about it here.  
> http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php? 
> t=458314&page=48#post5099686
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>
>
> If it isn't, then this guy Larry's already done all the hard work.  
> In the interest of full disclosure, I was the one of the major  
> posters who were raising the question in the thread about FCC  
> legality. Not so much because I believed it was illegal or even  
> dangerous, but to make 100% SURE it wasn't--before a slew of folks  
> went out and hacked up their 6102's..
>
>
>
> The AMA, as of right now, has taken the stance that it is illegal,  
> and therefore does not sanction the modification. You can read the  
> AMA Technical Director's comments on it in the thread.
>
>
>
> FWIW, I emailed Tony Stillman myself several weeks ago about this  
> modification. He seemed to think it was within FCC rules.  
> Apparently the AMA and he are at odds on this. We'll have to wait  
> and see how the testing pans out. Hopefully the AMA will take  
> another look if all goes well.
>
>
>
> Rick
>
>
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> -------Original Message-------
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> From: Ron Van Putte
>
> Date: 02/26/06 11:27:01
>
> To: Cameron Smith; NSRCA Mailing List
>
> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fact/Rumor?
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> On Feb 25, 2006, at 10:13 AM, Cameron Smith wrote:
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> > Have you asked Tony what he has heard? That would be great IF this
>
> > was a
>
> > option.
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>
> I sent an e-mail to Tony Stillman and am awaiting his response.
>
>
>
> BTW, I thought the following might be of interest to some followers
>
> of the List.  A friend of mine is an electrical engineer and he likes
>
> to do electronic modifications to his radio equipment.  He bought one
>
> of the Specktrum systems and took the back off the transmitter.
>
> Based on what he saw, he ordered a JR 6102 transmitter and installed
>
> the Specktrum RF module in it.  Here's the interesting fact:  He says
>
> that the RF module appears to have been designed for the JR 6102,
>
> because the predrilled holes in the board match up to the back of the
>
> 6102 and all he had to do was screw the board down and solder three
>
> wires.  He's now using the modified 6102 transmitter with the
>
> Spectrum receiver.  For those who might scream that this modification
>
> invalidates the FCC type certification of the system, he responds
>
> that the FCC regulations say that he can do what he's done if he gets
>
> the modified transmitter tested at a certified testing station.
>
> There is such a station in Georgia and he plans to have his
>
> transmitter tested there next week, on this way to the Southeastern
>
> Model Show in Perry, GA.  Once he does this, other qualified
>
> individuals can legally perform the same modification.  Interesting.
>
>
>
> Ron Van Putte
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> > From: nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
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> > [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org] On Behalf Of  
> Ron Van
>
> > Putte
>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 10:00 AM
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> > To: NSRCA Mailing List
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> > Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Fact/Rumor?
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> >
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> > I heard that Futaba is planning to market a transmitter module which
>
> > will plug in the high-end Futaba transmitters, enabling  owners to
>
> > use their transmitters with the Spektrum 2.4 GHz receiver.  Is it
>
> > more than a rumor?
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> >
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> > Ron Van Putte
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> Date: February 27, 2006 9:31:18 AM CST
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