[NSRCA-discussion] Bad fuel again?

[Koenig, Tom]

Hi again..its Dufus here!

Matt you are scaring me...so what did we get out of the Methanol when we stuck it in the minus 80 freezer?? It wasn't a lot and we thought it was hardly worth the effort. Could we have frozen some other contaminant then...or did we actually freeze some methanol????



Tom



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No it does not. Water is totally miscible in the methanol and will not come out of solution. Methanol could be dried using silica gel, an industrial desiccant, by passing the fuel through a filtering bed containing the desiccant.

There was a study done a few years ago by Joe Wagner
 or Peter Chinn I believe (noted engine men) who added a considerable percentage to regular model fuel and got surprising results....the engine produced more power. The theory was that oxygen available from the decomposition of water was available for more complete combustion of the fuel. Of course, that's at full throttle.....I would question the transition qualities of any water containing fuel, and transition is what we drive for most.

Pete, if you haven't done it yet, it would be worthwhile to actually run the stuff before making any decisions as to what to do next

MattK


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Does this really work?  The water that is in solution will separate and freeze? 
--Lance


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Peter,

Stick it in the freezer. The water will freeze, just skim it off.

Tom
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I have 4 gallons of 30% nitro fuel which was mixed with bad Methanol (unknown at the time) the rest of the ingredients were fine.

I am assuming that moisture may have got the drum of methanol but I am not sure.

Is there anything I can do to recover this fuel for at least sport plane use or do I count my losses and throw it out? 

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