[NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence

astropuppy astropuppy at gmail.com
Mon Aug 4 11:25:42 AKDT 2014


I do not understand the description of #17 the reverse half cuban:

"17. 1/2 Rev Cuban from top,1/2 roll on 45 (T): Model executes a one-eighth
(1/8) outside loop to
a 45 degree downline. On this line the model hesitates, performs a half
roll, hesitates, and then
performs a five eights (5/8) inside loop to level upright in the opposite
direction of flight."

Shouldn't the "five eights (5/8) inside loop" be an 5/8 outside loop
instead of the stated inside loop? The next maneuver is the upright spin.




On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Dale Olstinske via NSRCA-discussion <
nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

> Attached here, just in case
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> *From:* NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]
> *On Behalf Of *RJ Bohn via NSRCA-discussion
> *Sent:* Monday, August 04, 2014 12:04 PM
> *To:* Jas; General pattern discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 2015 Proposed Advanced Sequence
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> ALCON,
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>  I went to the site and found the same sequence as last week… I think.
> Are these .pdf files dated anywhere?
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> Richard Bohn
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> On Aug 4, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Jas via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> I'm out at the field with one of our Advanced pilots and he likes the
> changes. I'm going to fly through it once for him and then call it for him.
> Updates later.
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> On Aug 4, 2014, at 12:24 PM, Dale Olstinske via NSRCA-discussion <
> nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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> Over that past few weeks, we have received a lot of input from the
> membership about the Advanced sequence proposed for 2015. To everyone who
> has, a big thanks, we really need this in order to develop sequences that
> meet the expectations of the majority of the membership. I would add, it
> is very helpful when these inputs are specific, not just "I don't like it".
> Much of the criticism about this sequence was in two areas, difficulty and
> new maneuvers, let me address each.
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> The guide allows for new maneuvers to be created. The list of maneuvers in
> the development guide is not meant to be exhaustive. Each time we develop
> new schedules, new ones are created or borrowed from other disciplines,
> like F3A or even do I dare say, IMAC LOL! In this proposed sequence, there
> are a few maneuvers that were previously not in the catalog, like
> the Immelman with full rolls, the Hour Glass or the Cobra as we defined. As
> along at these are in line with class guidelines and it's felt they are
> appropriate, they are added to the list of allowable maneuvers.
> Specifically, the Hour Glass was added because we all felt it was
> appropriate, and a variant of that maneuver is now in Masters and F3A-P. So
> as you will see, we left it in.
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> As to difficulty, we had enough pilots indicate concern, that we took
> another look. In doing so, we realized that we had exceeded some of the
> boundaries set forth in the Advanced section. The guide has been a living
> breathing document for the past few cycles, so we could have modified the
> guide to allow for this sequence, but it was felt this was the wrong
> approach. Now, for the next cycle, we will be recommending some changes to
> the guide (for BOD approval) which would allow more flexibility, however
> for now, we are modifying the sequence to adhere to the guidelines.
> Specifically, there are only limited number of inverted entries and exits,
> on turn around maneuvers, executed at a low altitude. You will see in the
> new sequence, we simply added and removed rolls, which brought the number
> of inverted sections in line. The basic structure and class of each
> maneuvers, are really unchanged.
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> The new sequence is now posted on the NSRCA web site. Again a big thanks
> for all who took the time to let us know.
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> Dale
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> Sequence Committee
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