[NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics

Xavier Mouraux xaviermouraux at yahoo.com
Thu Sep 8 08:37:26 AKDT 2016


+100%

      From: "Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion" <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
 To: Dave Lockhart <davel322 at comcast.net>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> 
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 9:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics
   
Huge +1
Especially to the last part.  One day event, and maneuvers any club guy past the beginner stage can try.  

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On Sep 7, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Dave Lockhart via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:



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Dave          From: NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of Scott McHarg via NSRCA-discussion
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2016 2:01 PM
To: General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] New Club Class for Precision Aerobatics    All,    This is a note from Jon Carter from the NSRCA BoD.  FYI!    Announcing the NSRCA “Club Class! Whether you want to call it Club class or Novice class or whatever, it’s OK, as long as we get more people flying pattern! What is this? Good question, we have heard from the membership that it would be nice for the NSRCA to define a non-rulebook pattern entry level event that a CD could offer if they so decided. This would be a non-turnaround “old-school” type of pattern that any club flyer could do and yet still be challenged by. It will give the CD the opportunity to grab some of the “hot dog” type sport flyers at his club, and maybe some old time pattern pilots, and hand them a maneuver/downgrade sheet and say “come on out to the pattern contest next weekend and see what you can do!” Who knows, if he can get three or four club flyers to come out maybe some will think, “Hey, this is fun! I could learn that Sportsman pattern” Worst case it will get some more club flyers to participate in local events which always makes it easier to “sell” a pattern contest to the local club officers! So, dust off those older pattern planes and those sport planes and come out and have some fun! Look on the NSRCA website under the Sequence tab for the maneuver list and descriptions. https://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences    Scott A. McHarg VSCL / CANVASS U.A.S. Research Pilot Texas A&M University PPL - ASEL Remote Pilot Certified Under FAA Part 107 
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