[NSRCA-discussion] Fw: Price for a pattern plane...

Mon Dec 31 07:33:02 AKST 2018

I have seen the FMS Olympus flown competitively in Advanced so “cheap” competitive equipment is available.

From: james woodward via NSRCA-discussion 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 11:10 AM
To: Tjpritchett ; General pattern discussion 
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Fw: Price for a pattern plane...

Got to agree of course.  Pattern or IMac is comparatively inexpensive to enter and engage at a local level.   

It is “expensive” in practice time and dedication required to learn and improve, because it is not an easy endeavor. 

Jim 

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On Dec 31, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Tjpritchett via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

  I just finished my epic, and of the other hobbies I’ve had over the years, pattern flying still way cheaper to equip. than say for bass-fishing, motorcycling, hunting, car customizing, etc. our suppliers have to make some money. If someone were to come up with a $200 foam 2M airframe though, I’d get one or two.

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  On Dec 31, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Charlie Barrera via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

    I feel the same as you guys Randy and Jason. I could throw a lot of money at my sport but it still doesn’t make me fly any better! Lol! I enjoy the friendships, the common interests, and I’m not just boring holes in the sky! It’s a great pass time and hobby. ...Charlie

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    On Dec 31, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Randy Forbus via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org> wrote:

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      From: Randy Forbus <rforbus at hotmail.com>
      Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 1:27 PM
      To: Jas S via NSRCA-discussion; Jas S
      Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Price for a pattern plane... 

      Good discussion Jason, any hobby or sport has a price tag, like golf it can get expensive, I never got into playing but I can see the fun in it. I do have motorcycles that hobby can get pricey too. You have to pick your poison on how you want to spend your hard earned dollars, and R/C in general is the least expensive, I don't need top of the line stuff , but I don't fly junk either, top of the line not going to make me fly any better or worse, I just enjoy the hobby and the friends I've made over the years doing this.

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      From: NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces at lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of Jas S via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org>
      Sent: Monday, December 31, 2018 1:14 AM
      To: nsrca-discussion at lists.nsrca.org
      Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] Price for a pattern plane... 

      There’s always been talk about how expensive pattern is. All disciplines and hobbies are expensive, it’s just a choice one makes as to how much they want to spend. I’ve not had a ‘top of the line $$$$’ model since I was a teen when I wasn’t paying for my planes. Back then I was lucky enough to get the best planes on the market. Ten Plus planes back then were as good as the Yang/Oxai planes of today, and relative cost was about the same. Since being on my own, I’ve had more average planes, price point at least. Sponsorship allows me to outfit my planes with what I consider some of the best equipment, but even then I don’t bling out my planes at every turn.

      Example, Acuity set-up from the 2017 Nats in Blytheville, AR:
      Plane: AJ Acuity $949
      Motor: AJ 5230-20P $260
      OS/Futaba ESC: $300 I think
      Battery: ThunderPower 6000’s $220
      Servos: Futaba SBUS, 173’s, 171’s & 175 $950 now 🤭
      Receiver: Futaba 7006 $100 now
      Falcon Spinner and Prop: $160 
      Total works out to about: $2939

      Most hardware is stock from the kit. Linkages, tail wheel assembly, sticky velcro hook side, axles, wheels. I changed the cowl screws, motor mounting screws (shorter) and velcro strap for the battery.

      I could have used, and not hurt my performance any, this equipment:
      Futaba 9650’s, 9151’s & 9155 ($430) and saved -$520
      Futaba 617 receiver ($94) and saved -$6
      Castle 80a ESC ($145) and saved -$155
      Gator spinner ($18) and saved -$42
      APC prop ($44) and saved -$56
      Power Unlimited 5800’s ($186) and saved $34
      Shulman Aviation 6v regulator ($20) +$20
      Total saved: $658

      So my Acuity set-up could be done for just about $2144. This is assuming you have NONE of the stuff to put in a 2m sized plane.

      Now my Epic set-up from the 2018 Muncie, IN Nats is a different price point:
      CA Model Epic $2780 (Evo price, I think Epic + was less)
      Brenner Contra: $1000 last year
      Kontronic Motor: $500
      Add $100 for a 2nd Falcon prop
      Subtract $60 for the Falcon spinner
      Futaba servos/receiver, ThunderPower batteries and OS/Futaba ESC are the same prices as Acuity. 

      I usually use 2mm carbon rod for pushrods, Du-Bro/Central Hobbies/F3AU links, MPI 2.25 wheels.

      Total around $6000

      Again, using equipment that’s not ‘top of the line’, I can save about $2400. Most of the difference from the Acuity savings is swapping the contra for a Himax set-up.

      And the Yang/Oxai you can add another $~2500 to the total for a top-shelf set-up.

      All this being said, the BEST deals for a newbie to pattern are:
      Any sport/pattern capable plane they are comfortable flying.
      Any second hand pattern plane they can afford.
      A good friend with a spare plane they will loan you 😁

      Have a safe Happy New Year to everyone and always land wheels down 😉

      Jason
      Jas iP
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