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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>So the pilot is doing his best presentation so far with
his wife doing the calling as they have for many years. It is getting late
. This is real concentration. He is doing very well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Then all of a sudden he entirely blows a maneuver and for
safety he goes up.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>You can imagine the confusion. What line are we on
now??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>All names have been removed to protect the
innocent.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Rick</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=faipatrn@msn.com href="mailto:faipatrn@msn.com">ROBERT PASTORELLO</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pattern Fun / scribe</DIV>
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<DIV>Most folks, being honest, would have to admit they DO NOT know all the
classes...which raises the question of "what if the pilot's caller doesn't
call loudly enough for you to hear?", or better yet, "what if the CALLER calls
the INCORRECT maneuver?" [Nah, NEVER would happen]</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Then, where's the judge at...an ugly place....</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I saw a pilot do a 3/4 roll on a humpty that should have been
1/4....zeroed him...the OTHER judge "didn't see that", so he scored it a 7 or
something...and since we weren't conferring, guess what?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>SEVERAL people were REALLY interested in why there was a
difference...except the pilot....hmm...</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Del
Rykert</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 19, 2002 7:19
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org;
vanputte@nuc.net</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pattern Fun / scribe</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>How do you memorize all the different classes of maneuvers?
I can't memorize<BR>my own let alone all the
others.<BR><BR> Del K.
Rykert<BR> AMA - 8928<BR>
NSRCA - 473<BR> Kb2joi - General<BR>----- Original
Message -----<BR>From: "Ron Van Putte" <vanputte@nuc.net><BR>To:
<discussion@nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 6:25
PM<BR>Subject: Re: Pattern Fun / scribe<BR><BR><BR>> I don't use a scribe
and I never look down. I use a legal size<BR>> clipboard and a long
legal pad to record the scores. Then I transfer<BR>> the scores
during the landing approach. You can't do that? Pity.
I've<BR>> been doing it for years.<BR>><BR>> Ron Van
Putte<BR>><BR>><BR>> George Kennie wrote:<BR>><BR>> >
Right On!, James!<BR>> > That's exactly why I wont sit in the chair
without a scribe!<BR>> > G<BR>> ><BR>> > Woodward James R
Civ 412 TW/DRP wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> >>You may have
your own opinion on scribes or no scribes. BUT, do this
at<BR>the<BR>> >>next contest. Fly your round, then sit back
and watch another flyer in<BR>YOUR<BR>> >>class. Whatch his
flight real close, and I'm sure you'll pick out some<BR>> >>errors,
then, quickly look at the judges and notice which of the
judges<BR>did<BR>> >>not see the error, because their head was
obviously down, and looking at<BR>the<BR>> >>paper. Then,
realize that if you judge and look down to write scores,<BR>that<BR>>
>>you probably miss something from that flight as well. At the
last<BR>contest,<BR>> >>I watched 1 judge who consistently missed
the first two points of the<BR>> >>inverted 4-pt roll, because they
were looking down at writing the score<BR>from<BR>> >>the full-roll
1/2 outside loop. How the heck can you judge the 4-pt<BR>>
>>accurately, if you miss the entry (wings level?
heading?<BR>> >>decending/climbing?), first roll rate, etc? Not to
mention all other<BR>> >>manuevers. No judge should be
looking down during any flight, from<BR>> >>sportsman to FAI.
Tough issue....<BR>> >><BR>> >>Jim W.<BR>>
>><BR>> >>-----Original Message-----<BR>> >>From:
John Ferrell [mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net]<BR>> >>Sent:
Tuesday, September 10, 2002 9:52 AM<BR>> >>To:
discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> >>Subject: Re: Pattern Fun<BR>>
>><BR>> >> (Can't see how you can judge FAI or Masters
without a scribe.)<BR>> >>You don't have to keep the clipboard in
your lap!<BR>> >><BR>> >>John Ferrell<BR>> >>6241
Phillippi Rd<BR>> >>Julian NC 27283<BR>> >>Phone:
(336)685-9606<BR>> >>Dixie Competition Products<BR>>
>>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW<BR>> >>"My Competition is
Not My Enemy"<BR>> >><BR>>
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