<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">This is interesting. Folks have obviously received my post and have answered it. But I have not received it yet, although I have received the answers. Isn't AOL grand?? Wonder how many other postings I have missed?<BR>
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Tony is correct of course. Don't know what I was thinking. The FAI rules are explicit on this issue. It was not my intent to mislead anyone, and the last thing I wanted is to take the focus off the point I was making. Regardless, my point still stands<BR>
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Matt K<BR>
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In a message dated 9/23/2002 9:05:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tony@radiosouthrc.com writes:<BR>
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Date:9/23/2002 9:05:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time<BR>
From:<A HREF="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com">tony@radiosouthrc.com</A><BR>
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Bob:<BR>
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I think Matt was saying that he might as well as land. The only requirement to make a pilot land is something falling off the model in flight, or passing behind the zero line multiple times, earning zeros. </FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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<B>From:</B> <A HREF="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A> <BR>
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A question....Matt suggested that an FAI pilot is required to land for doing an incorrect maneuver? I'm not sure I understand that, and I don't think that's what Matt meant, but I'd like to know....anyone?</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><BR>
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<B>From:</B> <A HREF="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> <BR>
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<B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 23, 2002 5:31 PM<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: Pattern Fun / scribe / Judging<BR>
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All,<BR>
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This happened to us at this year's Nats: <BR>
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I, along with two others, judged F3A on site 3, the last day of preliminary flying. Things were moving right along, callers calling and pilots flying, and we simply judged as best we could. Some distance down the order, a very capable competitor, (all F3A competitors that I saw on that line were very capable), was given a maneuver out of sequence to perform, which he did. <BR>
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I felt something was off immediately, placed a dot at that maneuver, and continued scoring on my pad (RVP's idea and I like it). I was familiar with the PO3 sequence since I call it for my friend back home, but was not certain of what exactly the deviation was, since the caller had called it that way. He got it wrong and the pilot flew it wrong. <BR>
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A considerable amount of my concentration as a judge was blown when I noticed the problem. I am fairly certain the competitor knew his flight was burned as well. Without full concentration, he stopped flying to his ability and I stopped judging to mine. In truth he needed to land the plane per F3A rules, but since I wasn't sure what he had done, I allowed him to finish the flight<BR>
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My point is, judging is difficult to do well; it is a chore to be sure, but it is also the most important chore in a contest. Familiarity alone is not enough if we sit the chair. Having the caller call the maneuvers out loud is obviously not foolproof. This was not the first time this has happened and will not be the last. <BR>
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My answer to this is, PREPARE TO SIT THE CHAIR; one cannot simply be "familiar with the sequence" as the Certification class teaches. One must have a working knowledge of the sequence. It is our responsibility and duty to do the best possible job judging the people who have worked so hard to get themselves ready. Anything less and we are derelict in our duty. <BR>
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Respectfully submitted,<BR>
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Matt Kebabjian<BR>
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