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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color=#008080
size=2>Matt.. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color=#008080
size=2> Not looking to stir a hornets nest but I'm not clear
on your comment on the pilot needing to land the plane per FAI rules, after his
mistake. I thought a judge was to zero that maneuver and every other one that is
being performed out of sequence? What am I missing? </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color=#008080
size=2> Yes judging is a thankless task and I consider far
harder than attempting to fly masters or FAI. Judges need all the assistance
they can to do their job well IMHO. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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size=2> </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="Lucida Sans Unicode" color=#008080
size=2> Del K. Rykert<BR> AMA -
8928 <BR> NSRCA - 473<BR> Kb2joi
- General </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, September 23, 2002 3:31
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Pattern Fun / scribe /
Judging</DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">All,<BR><BR>This happened to us at this year's Nats:
<BR><BR>I, along with two others, judged F3A on site 3, the last day of
preliminary flying. Things were moving right along, callers calling and pilots
flying, and we simply judged as best we could. Some distance down the order, a
very capable competitor, (all F3A competitors that I saw on that line were
very capable), was given a maneuver out of sequence to perform, which he did.
<BR><BR>I felt something was off immediately, placed a dot at that maneuver,
and continued scoring on my pad (RVP's idea and I like it). I was familiar
with the PO3 sequence since I call it for my friend back home, but was not
certain of what exactly the deviation was, since the caller had called
it that way. He got it wrong and the pilot flew it wrong. <BR><BR>A
considerable amount of my concentration as a judge was blown when I noticed
the problem. I am fairly certain the competitor knew his flight was burned as
well. Without full concentration, he stopped flying to his ability and I
stopped judging to mine. In truth he needed to land the plane per F3A rules,
but since I wasn't sure what he had done, I allowed him to finish the
flight<BR><BR>My point is, judging is difficult to do well; it is a chore to
be sure, but it is also the most important chore in a contest. Familiarity
alone is not enough if we sit the chair. Having the caller call the maneuvers
out loud is obviously not foolproof. This was not the first time this has
happened and will not be the last. <BR><BR>My answer to this is, PREPARE TO
SIT THE CHAIR; one cannot simply be "familiar with the sequence" as the
Certification class teaches. One must have a working knowledge of the
sequence. It is our responsibility and duty to do the best possible job
judging the people who have worked so hard to get themselves ready. Anything
less and we are derelict in our duty. <BR><BR>Respectfully
submitted,<BR><BR>Matt Kebabjian<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 9/23/2002
10:28:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, tomanekw@saic-abingdon.com
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>RE: Pattern Fun / scribe / Judging
</B><BR>Date:9/23/2002 10:28:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:tomanekw@saic-abingdon.com">tomanekw@saic-abingdon.com</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I>Sent from
the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR>Ok, we spend hours and hours building the
planes (or work a lot at regular<BR>jobs and pay for someone to build the
plane), setting the planes, trimming,<BR>and then practicing, and learning
our sequences. We also need to find time<BR>to learn the other
sequences. If there are no opportunities at local field,<BR>pay
attention to the sequences in the early rounds of a contest and
maybe<BR>that will be enough to be able to judge the last round, or at the
next<BR>contest. Use the contests to learn and not just hang out with
friend.<BR>Scribing is a good way to learn too.<BR><BR>As a judge one has
the responsibility to the pilot being judged and others<BR>in the contest to
not only be familiar but know the sequence very well and<BR>easily identify
small but crucial errors (say in the FAI snap followed by<BR>point
rolls in the OPPOSITE direction - wrong direction will earn you
zero).<BR>Reading the sequence is not enough, seeing it flown numerous times
correctly<BR>is a must in my book. Eric is correct that some of the
maneuver<BR>descriptions are too long to be announced just before the
maneuver without<BR>interfering with the judging and the pilot's
concentration. My call sheet<BR>has certain words bolded in the
description and I always ask the caller to<BR>only read the bolded stuff, so
I only have to be reminded of what is coming<BR>up but not the entire
maneuver description, for instance: <BR>
"triangle" means "triangle with two out of four point
rolls"
<BR> "square" means "square form the top with
half rolls in first and third<BR>leg"<BR>But that is certainly not enough
for the unfamiliar judge.<BR><BR>The bottom line is that it is the judges
responsibility to KNOW the sequence<BR>he/she is judging. If you are
asked to judge and you are not familiar with<BR>the sequence - tell the CD
that you are not comfortable judging this class,<BR>he will find someone
else. In the past I have declined to judge FAI when I<BR>was not
familiar with the sequence. If I cannot judge to the best of
my<BR>abilities because I do not know the sequence I do not want to judge
and<BR>should not be allowed either - there are no excuses on this issue.
<BR><BR>Wojtek</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>