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<DIV><SPAN class=670225822-27102002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Buddy,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670225822-27102002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I'll
look through my stuff and see if I can find the tally you're looking for.
However, the class with the most responce was the Masters class. Very few
Sportsman Class people replied. The best that I can remember, the vote
was against an increase in weight by all classes.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=670225822-27102002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Tom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Buddy
Brammer<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, October 27, 2002 5:25 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: bureaucratic org/Weight
Question<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
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<P><BR><BR></P>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P>Ron</P></DIV>
<P>I am aware of the vote and would like to obtain information as to the make
up of the votes by class. I have requested this but the person that I
requested it from doesn't have time to extract it, so I guess I will have to
go on my merry way without it. Just trying to figure out for myself where the
interest is centered by class versus contest participation. and if anyone had
personally submitted a rule change request to AMA to change
the weight rule.I assure you and everyone that my motives are
honorable, not trying to promote controversy .</P>
<P>Buddy <BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: ronlock <RONLOCK@COMCAST.NET>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: bureaucratic org/Weight Question
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:46:57 -0500
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>According to the rules survey results , the question on should
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>the weight limit be raised received 74 Yes, 111 No, votes.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>There is a proposal to add language to the effect of:
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>~The contest director has option of deleting weight & size
limits
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>for Sportsman class...such deletion must be published in ...
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>advance...model must conform to AMA weight limits.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>Ron Lockhart
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> Tom
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> I fully understand that it was not submitted by NSRCA. My
question was, Has anyone submitted a weight change personally? I also think it
would enlightening to know,since the vote margin was close. How many votes For
and Against the weight change came from each individual Class? But I don't
expect that information will be made available.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> Buddy
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >From: "Thomas C. Weedon"
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >To:
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: RE: bureaucratic organization!
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 04:10:02 -0500
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Buddy,
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >The rules proposals that were submitted to AMA was posted
on this list about
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >a month ago. There was no rule proposal for a weight limit
change because
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >the membership did not approve such a change. In a series
of three questions
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >on the original ballot, the members voted "no change", by
a slim majority.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Better luck next time, or write your own proposal and
submit it. That is
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >your privilege.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Tom
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > -----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > From: discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]On
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Behalf Of Buddy Brammer
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:08 PM
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > Subject: Re: bureaucratic organization!
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > Tony I agree. Does anyone know if the weight change
proposal was submitted
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >to AMA by anyone?
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > Buddy
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >From: "Tony Stillman"
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >To:
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >Subject: Re: bureaucratic organization!
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:44:31 -0500
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >Troy:
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >One correction. NSRCA proposals do NOT get an
automatic pass on the
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >initial vote.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >This changed about 6 years ago. As a matter of fact,
An NSRCA past
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >President, Rick Allison, spent long hours writing a
proposal to help
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >counteract this change. However, it ended up being thrown
out by the AMA
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Exec. Counsel.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >I am in total support of ANY AMA member sending in
proposals. Past
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >surveys prove that NSRCA can't think of everything that
needs to be done.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >Many things can be missed, or not even thought of. It is
also very easy to
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >just sit back and let NSRCA handle everything. Don't do
that! That's the
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >problem with the "silent majority" of our country now! We
don't vote, and so
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> >we end up with what we get.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >It takes nerve to stand up for your ideas. Good job,
Troy.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >Tony Stillman
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >Radio South
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >3702 N. Pace Blvd.
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >Pensacola, FL 32505
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>> > >www.radiosouthrc.com
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<DIV></DIV>> > >
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