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<P>I am aware of the vote and would like to obtain information as to the make up of the votes by class. I have requested this but the person that I requested it from doesn't have time to extract it, so I guess I will have to go on my merry way without it. Just trying to figure out for myself where the interest is centered by class versus contest participation. and if anyone had personally submitted a rule change request to AMA to change the weight rule.I assure you and everyone that my motives are honorable, not trying to promote controversy .</P>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: ronlock <RONLOCK@COMCAST.NET>
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<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: bureaucratic org/Weight Question
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<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 14:46:57 -0500
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<DIV></DIV>>According to the rules survey results , the question on should
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<DIV></DIV>>the weight limit be raised received 74 Yes, 111 No, votes.
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<DIV></DIV>>There is a proposal to add language to the effect of:
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<DIV></DIV>>~The contest director has option of deleting weight & size limits
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<DIV></DIV>>for Sportsman class...such deletion must be published in ...
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<DIV></DIV>>advance...model must conform to AMA weight limits.
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<DIV></DIV>> Tom
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<DIV></DIV>> I fully understand that it was not submitted by NSRCA. My question was, Has anyone submitted a weight change personally? I also think it would enlightening to know,since the vote margin was close. How many votes For and Against the weight change came from each individual Class? But I don't expect that information will be made available.
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<DIV></DIV>> Buddy
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<DIV></DIV>> >From: "Thomas C. Weedon"
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<DIV></DIV>> >Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: RE: bureaucratic organization!
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<DIV></DIV>> >Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2002 04:10:02 -0500
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<DIV></DIV>> >Buddy,
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<DIV></DIV>> >The rules proposals that were submitted to AMA was posted on this list about
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<DIV></DIV>> >a month ago. There was no rule proposal for a weight limit change because
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<DIV></DIV>> >the membership did not approve such a change. In a series of three questions
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<DIV></DIV>> >on the original ballot, the members voted "no change", by a slim majority.
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<DIV></DIV>> >Better luck next time, or write your own proposal and submit it. That is
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<DIV></DIV>> >Tom
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<DIV></DIV>> > -----Original Message-----
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<DIV></DIV>> > From: discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]On
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<DIV></DIV>> >Behalf Of Buddy Brammer
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<DIV></DIV>> > Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2002 2:08 PM
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<DIV></DIV>> > To: discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV></DIV>> > Subject: Re: bureaucratic organization!
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<DIV></DIV>> > Tony I agree. Does anyone know if the weight change proposal was submitted
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<DIV></DIV>> >to AMA by anyone?
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<DIV></DIV>> > >From: "Tony Stillman"
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<DIV></DIV>> > >Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV></DIV>> > >To:
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<DIV></DIV>> > >Subject: Re: bureaucratic organization!
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<DIV></DIV>> > >Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2002 19:44:31 -0500
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<DIV></DIV>> > >Troy:
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<DIV></DIV>> > >One correction. NSRCA proposals do NOT get an automatic pass on the
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<DIV></DIV>> >initial vote.
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<DIV></DIV>> > >This changed about 6 years ago. As a matter of fact, An NSRCA past
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<DIV></DIV>> >President, Rick Allison, spent long hours writing a proposal to help
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<DIV></DIV>> >counteract this change. However, it ended up being thrown out by the AMA
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<DIV></DIV>> >Exec. Counsel.
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<DIV></DIV>> > >I am in total support of ANY AMA member sending in proposals. Past
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<DIV></DIV>> >surveys prove that NSRCA can't think of everything that needs to be done.
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<DIV></DIV>> >Many things can be missed, or not even thought of. It is also very easy to
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<DIV></DIV>> >just sit back and let NSRCA handle everything. Don't do that! That's the
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<DIV></DIV>> >problem with the "silent majority" of our country now! We don't vote, and so
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<DIV></DIV>> >we end up with what we get.
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<DIV></DIV>> > >It takes nerve to stand up for your ideas. Good job, Troy.
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<DIV></DIV>> > >Tony Stillman
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