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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>One of the things that is not mentioned much is that any
facet of R/C that is growing is attracting more people than one that is not
growing, this is obvious. The point being that Pattern is in COMPETITION with
other forms of flying. By this I mean when a flyer that is getting past the
trainer plane/sport plane stage, he or she looks around to see what
interests and IMPRESSES them. One of the more impressive things they will see is
the large 30 to 40% planes being flown with many being flown in a 3D fashion of
sort, watching this can be a big attention getter as they see
these things hang in the air. Some of the owners of these planes fly them around
without doing a lot of fancy maneuvers others do the stunts, it is obvious
that you can go from simple flying to fancy stuff with the same type of
plane. The people that have progressed far enough to decide what part of the
hobby they are going to get into next see these planes at the
field and all over in magazines, it amounts to one heck of a selling job
and that is what pattern is competing against. The flier that is ready to make
the change to something other than simple sport flyers is more impressed
watching the big stuff fly than he is watching pattern stuff fly if there even
is pattern planes being flown at his local field.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I would be willing to bet that the reduction in pattern
numbers corresponds very well in time with the growth of the 30 to 40% planes,
specially the 3D style, pattern is in competition with these and other
non-pattern parts of the hobby. Pattern is fun to fly once you are in it
but not very impressive to the non pattern flyer to watch, unless that
flier knows someone who is in pattern he probably will not very often consider
getting into it, the visual impact is not as great and they are so quiet
you hardly notice them, IF someone has one, while the larger 3D planes
get most of the attention these days.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Bill</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 31, 2002 8:11
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> WAS - KFactor Now
"Members"</DIV>
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<DIV>Troy - you mention over 1100 a "few years ago", and now, approx.
600. Is there a public number maybe Maureen could share? Curious -
what exactly HAVE the paid member counts been for the past 4 years ????</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>And does anyone KNOW if a decreased membership in NSRCA has ALSO resulted
in lower contest attendance? From what I hear/read, the average
attendance is relatively unchanged, isn't that right? So maybe we have
just lost members in the NSRCA and NOT "lost" Pattern fliers?</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Any speculation on these points/questions?</DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello<BR>NSRCA 199, AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=troy_newman@msn.com href="mailto:troy_newman@msn.com">Troy
Newman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 31, 2002 1:36
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: KFactor</DIV>
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<DIV>I think that it was mid-July the one that was circulated at the
NATS....I can't be for sure....there may have been one after that....I don't
think it was the July issue I think is was called the June issue.....but
that's the last one I have seen.</DIV>
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<DIV>I don't always get them...I guess my mailman sucks...Seems to be the
typical answer. I think this year of 2002 I have received 3 or 4 KFs. I know
there have been more issues at least (6). I usually just borrow a buddies. I
would check and see what the last one was but they seem to be in high demand
out here in Colorado so I use it as a marketing tool....When I'm done I just
pass it along. The hope is eventually the guy that ends up with it who ever
he is might join up.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>The guys will get something going. Heck dues are coming up in December
and I would hate to see the numbers if there is no KF...Right now I think we
are standing at about 600+ and just a few years ago we were well over
1100+.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Its a serious concern for those of us that have been involved and
the people that are still involved. Not to mention the advertising exposure
that the main supports are counting on....There are just a few companies
that have advertised in Every single KF and continue to do so. no matter
what the delivery schedule and no matter what the quality of the
publication. These are the guys and companies that have sustained the KF
your dues are not enough period..the Advertising dollars these guys like
Central, Radio South, and others...I don't want to leave any off but I know
these 2 have never missed an addition in the last save 5-6
years+.......these dollars have made the KF possible so send them some
business. </DIV>
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<DIV>Troy </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B>
GeorgeF.</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 31, 2002
10:39 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: KFactor</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>But what was the last one?<BR>George<BR><BR><BR>At 06:39
PM 10/30/2002 -0700, you wrote:<BR>>That's the current story...hasn't
been one in a while!<BR>><BR>>Suppose to be one incoming and another
soon to follow...but nothing yet. <BR>>Sorry.<BR>><BR>>Good news
is I heard that dues are going
down.<BR>><BR>><BR>>TN<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>-----
Original Message -----<BR>>From: GeorgeF.<BR>>Sent: Wednesday,
October 30, 2002 6:34 PM<BR>>To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>>Subject:
KFactor<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>>What is the latest edition
of KFactor? I don't remember getting one in<BR>>awhile,
just wanted to make sure the mail-man didn't decide to take my
last<BR>>copy....<BR>>George<BR>><BR>>=====================================<BR>>#
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