<HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>Finally somebody got it right... Blah, Blah, Blaaah, ..., ... (I have to respond and will keep it SHORT)</DIV> <DIV>Cost keeps coming down, our leadership is trying hard, I do IMAC because its fun but Pattern keeps me fully challenged. It's just that with volunteers the K faltered. From what I hear we have people breaking their back to get it in shape for the long-run. You fly pattern (long-term) because you love it! a more positive attitude, and more friendliness among us would attract more people than bickering (perceived or real). Help, Fly, and Have Fun,</DIV> <DIV>Wade</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> Gregory Morris</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 01, 2002 8:43 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: K-Factor Pattern an invisible group</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>Gee Mike, thanks for the kind words. BTW the Patriot flys tomorrow with<BR>Tigre power, and Everette is coaching me and Chuck. Maybe we'll see ya in<BR>Intermediate next season...... Yes I did jump in with both feet plus some.<BR>I'm laughing about everyone conjecturing about this costs too much and<BR>pattern fliers are stuck up , IMAC this change rules that are stuck up blah,<BR>blah, blaah.<BR><BR>The fact of the matter is, pattern is something you have to want to do, I<BR>mean it's a desire. I've wanted to fly pattern since I was a kid (I'm 35<BR>now), and I did it this year (should have started last year, but chickened<BR>out). I had some help along the way, but I would have done it regardless.<BR><BR>The thing that really pushed me over the edge was a local club had a pattern<BR>primer for sport fliers where some pattern guys explained the rules, helped<BR>us fly the pattern, and gave us some advice. I have not looked back since.<BR><BR>I think if you want to flush out potential pattern fliers, give a pattern<BR>flying class at your local field, explain the rules, show what the pattern<BR>looks like being flown, and call for the guys. I guarantee you will pick up<BR>one or two pattern wanna bees like me. Maybe this is something the NSRCA<BR>could sponsor/encourage. Maybe have a big push on something like this a<BR>month or so before contest season.<BR><BR>BTW, for those of you who have not met Mike Hester, he is an ambassador to<BR>this sport.<BR><BR>The Newbie<BR>Greg Morris<BR>NSRCA 3458<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Mike Hester" <kerlock@attbi.com><BR>To: <discussion@nsrca.org><BR>Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 1:54 PM<BR>Subject: Re: K-Factor Pattern an invisible group<BR><BR><BR>> My question is this:<BR>><BR>> What's the best way to make that happen? With a rule change, or by getting<BR>> the word out?<BR>><BR>> For the record, I don't think a rule change of any kind is the best<BR>> soilution, barring getting rid of that ridiculous retract rule. I don't<BR>> believe that handicapping a class is a better method. Most of the<BR>sportsman<BR>> I saw last season were there to do battle, with arfs, 2 meter planes, .40<BR>> sized planes, whatever. If we had a .60 sized limit rule for instance,<BR>half<BR>> of the sportsman in D3 would have been forced to quit or move to<BR>> intermediate. Some of you may say "That's where they belong with them thar<BR>> danged 2 meter planes!" but just because you can afford and/or build a 2<BR>> meter plane doesn't mean you can fly it.<BR>><BR>> I never have understood the mentality that says "let's keep sportsman to<BR>> cheap small planes". Why handicap those with the drive just because the<BR>next<BR>> guy doesn't have the time or money?<BR>><BR>> I watched a guy in Florida whip butt with a .40 sized Arresti at 2<BR>contests<BR>> this year. He beat 2 meter planes in the process, in 25 mph crosswinds.<BR>> Problem is most people want to say "oh he's just a fluke" instead of<BR>> recognizing the fact that he took stock of his means and burned the fuel<BR>and<BR>> practiced. Was he intimidated by the 2 meter planes? Nope. He said he<BR>wanted<BR>> one and knew it would help, but he didn't sit at home making excuses. he<BR>> came out and did battle and had the time of his life, and showed a few<BR>> people that the answer is in the practice. He'll be back next year. I'd<BR>put<BR>> money on it.<BR>><BR>> I also watched Chuck Czarnik and Greg Morris just to name a couple, jump<BR>in<BR>> with both feet and go from struggling to pretty darned smooth pattern<BR>> pilots. Entering that first contest is the biggest step. After that, if<BR>you<BR>> have fun, you're hooked. But that first step can sometimes be<BR>intimidating.<BR>><BR>> A lot of you are right on the money. C Smith said it best, we are going to<BR>> get our "market share" of pilots and that's all we can expect. What we can<BR>> do is on a personal level, make sure those few guys don't get missed or<BR>> turned off. That means it's up to US, not the rule book. The rules are<BR>fine.<BR>><BR>> And pattern is growing in some parts of the country, like here. We need to<BR>> make sure it keeps going, because the best way to grow pattern is through<BR>> exposure. maybe 99% of the people at your field won't care, but that one<BR>guy<BR>> or gal will. Don't miss them. Cuz then there's 2 and it grows from there<BR>=)<BR>><BR>> -Mike Hester<BR>><BR>> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> From: "Linda Carnes" <flyinglady@mypccrashed.com><BR>> To: <discussion@nsrca.org><BR>> Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 8:22 AM<BR>> Subject: RE: K-Factor Pattern an invisible group<BR>><BR>><BR>> > In the Oct 2000 issue was an article on inexpensive Pattern Planes.<BR>> ><BR>> > While many of us tend to spend a lot, we need to emphasize to new comers<BR>> > that there are many planes out there well below 600 dollars setup, such<BR>as<BR>> > the World Model Intruder, Tai-Ji 40 and Zen 50.<BR>> ><BR>> > This is where I started with the Intruder and a Futaba T6, later I moved<BR>> to<BR>> > the Tai-Ji 60 and the Futaba 8U, Now I will be flying the 2 meter Tai-Ji<BR>> and<BR>> > a Futaba 9Z.<BR>> ><BR>> > Money in a plane and equipment will not make me a better pilot, burning<BR>> fuel<BR>> > will regardless of what I fly.<BR>> ><BR>> > Get new comers started with reasonable equipment and they usually will<BR>> > become hooked.<BR>> ><BR>> > Sincerely<BR>> ><BR>> > Linda Carnes<BR>> ><BR>> > NSRCA 3197<BR>> > AMA 599260<BR>> ><BR>> > Combined PC Support Services Inc.<BR>> > Phone: (706) 253-7677<BR>> > Toll Free: (866) 286-2379<BR>> > Fax: (706) 253-7679<BR>> > Cell Phone:(770) 401-7634<BR>> > Pager: (770)735-5691<BR>> > E-Mail: lac@mypccrashed.com<BR>> > Corp. 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