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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=978145914-08112002>Below
is from AMA.. I guess the question is, is it illegal in any way? Maybe FCC
issues some kind of certificate to the mfg. of a radio that issues approval of a
radio given a specific antenna. And if that antenna is changed, the radio
may be illegal to operate? That's the only basis that I can think of that
would make it illegal. Don't think I want to be the first case
though...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=978145914-08112002>BTW,
I'm the newest NSRCA member (joined yesterday). Glad to be part of the
SIG! Chuck </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=978145914-08112002></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Steve Kaluf
[mailto:skaluf@modelaircraft.org] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 08, 2002
8:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Chuck Czarnik'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Transmitter
Antennas<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=600144414-08112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Chuck,
AMA's position is that what is legal is legal. I only know of one whip
antenna that is currently type accepted or certificated with the transmitter
this is the JR whip. I've not put out anything regarding this in a long
time so I'm not sure what Annmarie is referencing, but a few years ago it
certainly as an issue and she may be pulling something from that.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=600144414-08112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=600144414-08112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>In
short, if not flying in accordance with the AMA Safety Code, which requires
compliance with the law, you may run the risk of not being covered by
insurance. No one ever knows for sure though until a case is
presented.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=600144414-08112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Steve
Kaluf</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=600144414-08112002><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Technical Director</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Chuck Czarnik
[mailto:cczarnik@arclp.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, November 08, 2002 9:15
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'skaluf@modelaircraft.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Transmitter
Antennas<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=928371214-08112002><FONT face=Arial size=2>Steve, Could you
help us by providing an official AMA position regarding the whip antennas
discussed below? Thank you, Chuck</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Wes
[mailto:wesslack@pacbell.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 07, 2002
10:35 PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Whip
antenna for Futaba 8U<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>Last year there was this same
discussion on the "8U" list. Annmarie Cross forwarded an email from Steve
Kaluf to that effect. He was very adamant that this modification would void
the AMA insurance. Everyone thought it was funny because that month's cover
of Model Aviation had some glider guiders with Ducky antennas.
<P>Regards, &c...Wes <BR>
<P>Kurt Bozarth wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE="CITE"> <SPAN class=820164004-08112002><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=-1>Please elaborate. The
AMA special interest group for pylon racing attempted to ban short TX
antennas but failed to do so during a vote last
year. </FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
class=820164004-08112002></SPAN><SPAN class=820164004-08112002><FONT
face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT
size=-1>Kurt</FONT></FONT></FONT></SPAN>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [<A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Wes</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, November 07, 2002 7:09 PM</FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=-1><B>Subject:</B> Re: Whip antenna for Futaba 8U</FONT></FONT>
<BR> </DIV>Remember that the AMA says they are illegal and that
nullifies your insurance.
<P>Regards, &c...Wes <BR>
<P>Tony Stillman wrote:
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<FONT face=Arial>Chuck:</FONT>
<P><FONT face=Arial>I would not recommend doing one on the 9Z because
of the mechanics of how it is installed. There are some issues of
fitting the installation inside the transmitter, but it could be
done.</FONT> <FONT face=Arial>Yes, we install them in the 8U's here at
Radio South.</FONT> Tony Stillman <BR>Radio South, Inc. <BR>3702 N.
Pace Blvd. <BR>Pensacola, Fl 32505 <BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/">www.radiosouthrc.com</A>
<BR>800-962-7802
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=chuckwagon@charter.net
href="mailto:chuckwagon@charter.net">Chuck Wagoner</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 04, 2002
11:40 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Whip antenna for
Futaba 8U</DIV><SPAN class=790372917-04112002><FONT
color=#0000ff>Tony, d</SPAN><SPAN class=790372917-04112002>oes the
same model R/C Duck work for both the Futaba 8U and the 9ZAP? Is it
an in-shop (at Radio South) job to install in the 9ZAP? Chuck
W.</FONT></SPAN>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=-1>-----Original Message-----</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[<A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Tony Stillman</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 04, 2002
11:21 AM</FONT></FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT
size=-1><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></FONT></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=-1><B>Subject:</B> Re: Whip
antenna for Futaba 8U</FONT></FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial>We use
the R/C Duck antenna. It is $24.95 and works very
well. Note that there is a reduction in output power, but
only a slight amount.</FONT> Tony Stillman <BR>Radio South, Inc.
<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd. <BR>Pensacola, Fl 32505 <BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/">www.radiosouthrc.com</A>
<BR>800-962-7802
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=cczarnik@arclp.com
href="mailto:cczarnik@arclp.com">Chuck Czarnik</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:'discussion@nsrca.org'">'discussion@nsrca.org'</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 04,
2002 10:52 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Whip antenna for
Futaba 8U</DIV><SPAN class=685374916-04112002><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Wanting to replace my stock antenna on
my 8U with one of those shorter whip antennas. I have
looked around the web and couldn't find one (Central, Radio
South, etc.). Any tips on a brand / source? BTW, if
this is a bad idea for performance reasons, please tell me that
also! TIA, Chuck</FONT></FONT></SPAN>
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