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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Buddy, </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Focus has many positive reports.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=buddybrammer35@hotmail.com
href="mailto:buddybrammer35@hotmail.com">Buddy Brammer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:08
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Weight Limit</DIV>
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<P>In the 2 meter or near 2 meter size, what kit's or ARF's are they?</P>
<P>Buddy<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Wade & Barbara Akle" <WB_AKLE@MSN.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Weight Limit
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2002 04:14:19 -0800
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>If we just went to 6 Kg (13.2 Lbs) my 3 Webras would be just
obsolete! so, I gain nothing. There are plenty of kits/ARFs in the 11 Lbs
range.
<DIV></DIV>>Wade
<DIV></DIV>> ----- Original Message -----
<DIV></DIV>> From: Larry Diamond
<DIV></DIV>> To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:00 PM
<DIV></DIV>> Subject: Re: Weight Limit
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> Depends on what the main goal is...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> If the end goal is to fly larger and more expensive
planes...Then yes, it's progress...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> If the goal is to recruit new members, grow pattern, and
advance designs and technology...Then IMHO this would be called regression and
not progressing into the future.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> It's not as challenging for designers and manufactures to just
make planes bigger by removing limitations of size and / or weight...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> I would suggest that we are using carbon fiber and other light
weight materials specifically because of the size and weight limitations. If
the limitations are simply cast aside, there would be no need to develop new
ways of using various technologies or advancing technologies. Just one example
of how limitations actually help advance Vs stall progress.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> Twisted perception from a twisted mind...
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> Larry
<DIV></DIV>> ----- Original Message -----
<DIV></DIV>> From: Buddy Brammer
<DIV></DIV>> To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>> Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 5:35 PM
<DIV></DIV>> Subject: RE: Weight Limit
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> Also by some called Progressing into the future.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> Buddy
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>> >From: "Wade & Barbara Akle"
<DIV></DIV>> >Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>> >To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>> >Subject: RE: Weight Limit
<DIV></DIV>> >Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 21:51:55 +0000
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >Ron,
<DIV></DIV>> >What you stated is called the rule of UnIntended
Consequences!
<DIV></DIV>> >Wade
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >>From: ronlock
<DIV></DIV>> >>Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>> >>To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>> >>Subject: RE: Weight Limit
<DIV></DIV>> >>Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 12:01:35 -0500
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>If we remove the weight limit, nothing dramatic
happens in the
<DIV></DIV>> >>short term.
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>The few pilots with ll lb and a few ounces birds will
be relieved,
<DIV></DIV>> >>and that's
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>nice. Overall, there is little impact.
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>Over the longer term, our models will get larger.
There is room in
<DIV></DIV>> >>a 2 meter
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>box to stick in a lot more airplane than we currently
have. And our
<DIV></DIV>> >>designers
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>will do that, since bigger is better.
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>Fuselages will get taller and thicker. Wing area will
grow to carry
<DIV></DIV>> >>the extra,
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>to about how much more? 1,400, 1,600 squares? Since we
don't
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>have engine rules, getting larger engines is just a
matter of
<DIV></DIV>> >>letting the
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>manufacturers catch up. Props and landing gear gets
bigger. So do
<DIV></DIV>> >>exhaust
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>systems, batteries, servos, etc. We probably get more
scale
<DIV></DIV>> >>appearance.
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>Every time we let models get bigger, they fly better,
present to
<DIV></DIV>> >>judges
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>better, and judges seem to score them better. So most
of us will
<DIV></DIV>> >>feel it's
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>necessary to go larger to stay competitive.
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>Larger in general, means more money and time to buy,
build,
<DIV></DIV>> >>maintain,
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>and transport. Does the existing active pattern
community want
<DIV></DIV>> >>that?
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>Is it good for recruiting and pattern participation in
the future?
<DIV></DIV>> >>
<DIV></DIV>> >>Ron Lockhart
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> >
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