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<DIV>If we just went to 6 Kg (13.2 Lbs) my 3 Webras would be just
obsolete! so, I gain nothing. There are plenty of kits/ARFs in the 11
Lbs range.</DIV>
<DIV>Wade</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=jed241@email.msn.com
href="mailto:jed241@email.msn.com">Larry Diamond</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:00
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Weight Limit</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Depends on what the main goal
is...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If the end goal is to fly larger
and more expensive planes...Then yes, it's progress...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If the goal is to recruit new
members, grow pattern, and advance designs and technology...Then IMHO this
would be called regression and not progressing into the future.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>It's not as challenging for
designers and manufactures to just make planes bigger by removing limitations
of size and / or weight...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I would suggest that we are
using carbon fiber and other light weight materials specifically because of
the size and weight limitations. If the limitations are simply cast aside,
there would be no need to develop new ways of using various technologies or
advancing technologies. Just one example of how limitations actually help
advance Vs stall progress.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Twisted perception from a twisted
mind...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Larry</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=buddybrammer35@hotmail.com
href="mailto:buddybrammer35@hotmail.com">Buddy Brammer</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, November 09, 2002 5:35
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Weight Limit</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>
<P>Also by some called Progressing into the future.</P>
<P>Buddy<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: "Wade & Barbara Akle" <WB_AKLE@MSN.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<DIV></DIV>>To: <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: RE: Weight Limit
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 21:51:55 +0000
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Ron,
<DIV></DIV>>What you stated is called the rule of UnIntended
Consequences!
<DIV></DIV>>Wade
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>>From: ronlock <RONLOCK@COMCAST.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>>Reply-To: <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<DIV></DIV>>>To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>>>Subject: RE: Weight Limit
<DIV></DIV>>>Date: Sat, 09 Nov 2002 12:01:35 -0500
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>If we remove the weight limit, nothing dramatic happens
in the
<DIV></DIV>>>short term.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>The few pilots with ll lb and a few ounces birds will be
relieved,
<DIV></DIV>>>and that's
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>nice. Overall, there is little impact.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Over the longer term, our models will get larger. There
is room in
<DIV></DIV>>>a 2 meter
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>box to stick in a lot more airplane than we currently
have. And our
<DIV></DIV>>>designers
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>will do that, since bigger is better.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Fuselages will get taller and thicker. Wing area will
grow to carry
<DIV></DIV>>>the extra,
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>to about how much more? 1,400, 1,600 squares? Since we
don't
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>have engine rules, getting larger engines is just a
matter of
<DIV></DIV>>>letting the
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>manufacturers catch up. Props and landing gear gets
bigger. So do
<DIV></DIV>>>exhaust
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>systems, batteries, servos, etc. We probably get more
scale
<DIV></DIV>>>appearance.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Every time we let models get bigger, they fly better,
present to
<DIV></DIV>>>judges
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>better, and judges seem to score them better. So most of
us will
<DIV></DIV>>>feel it's
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>necessary to go larger to stay competitive.
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Larger in general, means more money and time to buy,
build,
<DIV></DIV>>>maintain,
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>and transport. Does the existing active pattern community
want
<DIV></DIV>>>that?
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Is it good for recruiting and pattern participation in
the future?
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Ron Lockhart
<DIV></DIV>>
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