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<P>Ron </P>
<P>Are they also going to regain control of IMAC by setting the same and equal rules reguarding sequences for them in the future? If not there seem to be some lack of consideration on their part to repersent all SIG's equally. Could be that they are trying to justify their existance. which could start an internal controversy in spite of what we as a SIG"s have deturmined is best for us, After all the AMA board dosen't fly IMAC or Pattern, they only control the rules and may have deturmined that they are loosing control. Which in my view is a sign of weakness not strength. Good leaders lead. I will be waiting to hear the outcome of this and the reasons for their decission and sincerely hope that they make the right one.</P>
<P>Buddy <BR><BR></P></DIV>
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<DIV></DIV>>From: Ron Van Putte <VANPUTTE@NUC.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>>To: discussion@nsrca.org
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: Re: Annex Proposal
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2002 16:22:40 -0600
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Dan Curtis wrote:
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Before I could make any comments I think I would need to know if
<DIV></DIV>>>the
<DIV></DIV>>>person/persons that you spoke with had any logical reason for this
<DIV></DIV>>>proposal
<DIV></DIV>>>being dead so fast...what is going on??
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>Just looking for the facts I guess. Easy to say know to something
<DIV></DIV>>>but
<DIV></DIV>>>sometimes hard to have a good reason.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>The person I talked with is Dave Brown, the AMA president. He sent
<DIV></DIV>>a recommendation to the AMA Executive Council that they reject the
<DIV></DIV>>annex proposal and not send it to the R/C Aerobatics Contest Board.
<DIV></DIV>>Apparently the votes in so far are going along with his
<DIV></DIV>>recommendation.
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>Ron Van Putte
<DIV></DIV>>
<DIV></DIV>>>----- Original Message -----
<DIV></DIV>>>From: "Ron Van Putte" <VANPUTTE@NUC.NET>
<DIV></DIV>>>To: <DISCUSSION@NSRCA.ORG>
<DIV></DIV>>>Sent: Saturday, December 07, 2002 12:46 PM
<DIV></DIV>>>Subject: Annex Proposal
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>I sent the following two messages to the NSRCA board yesterday for
<DIV></DIV>>>>comment. After you've read the messages, you will see why 'time
<DIV></DIV>>>>is of
<DIV></DIV>>>>the essence'. Since the board members have already had the
<DIV></DIV>>>>information
<DIV></DIV>>>>for more than a day, I thought it was time to make subscribers of
<DIV></DIV>>>>the
<DIV></DIV>>>>NSRCA Discussion List aware of what was happening regarding the
<DIV></DIV>>>>annex
<DIV></DIV>>>>proposal so that there's some time for appropriate comment and
<DIV></DIV>>>>action.
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>The first - 12/6/02, 9:51 A.M.
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>"I just got a call from Steve Kaluf (AMA's Competition Director).
<DIV></DIV>>>>Steve
<DIV></DIV>>>>told me that the annex proposal had been reviewed by the AMA
<DIV></DIV>>>>Executive
<DIV></DIV>>>>Council and they were taking a vote about whether to reject it out
<DIV></DIV>>>>of
<DIV></DIV>>>>hand, without sending it to the contest board. The deadline for
<DIV></DIV>>>>the
<DIV></DIV>>>>vote is next Monday, but the voting is strongly for rejecting the
<DIV></DIV>>>>proposal. He offered me a compromise - if I withdraw the
<DIV></DIV>>>>proposal, we
<DIV></DIV>>>>would be given the opportunity for submitting multiple sets of
<DIV></DIV>>>>maneuver
<DIV></DIV>>>>schedules, like FAI has for F3A schedules. I offered him a
<DIV></DIV>>>>compromise -
<DIV></DIV>>>>insert a contest board veto in the process before maneuver
<DIV></DIV>>>>schedule
<DIV></DIV>>>>publication. I am going to call Dave Brown and discuss this with
<DIV></DIV>>>>him. I
<DIV></DIV>>>>wanted you to know what was going on because, even though I am the
<DIV></DIV>>>>proposer, I did it for NSRCA, based on the rules survey results."
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>The second - 12/6/02, 2:42 P.M.
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>"I had a long talk with Dave Brown. As written, the annex
<DIV></DIV>>>>proposal is
<DIV></DIV>>>>dead. We talked about possible compromises. The only one I was
<DIV></DIV>>>>able to
<DIV></DIV>>>>support is to rewrite the proposal to include Contest Board
<DIV></DIV>>>>approval of
<DIV></DIV>>>>whatever changes to the maneuver descriptions or maneuver
<DIV></DIV>>>>schedules we
<DIV></DIV>>>>come up with. The board approval would extend the time required
<DIV></DIV>>>>for the
<DIV></DIV>>>>change process to be accomplished. We would have to give AMA at
<DIV></DIV>>>>least
<DIV></DIV>>>>60 days to approve what we would want to publish. This means we'd
<DIV></DIV>>>>have
<DIV></DIV>>>>to get the changes to the board by about the Nats time frame to
<DIV></DIV>>>>make an
<DIV></DIV>>>>October 1st publication date.
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>"One big point he made was that the annex proposal should be
<DIV></DIV>>>>withdrawn
<DIV></DIV>>>>before the final AMA Executive Council vote was accepted on
<DIV></DIV>>>>whether to
<DIV></DIV>>>>reject the proposal. That date is next Monday. He said that it
<DIV></DIV>>>>would
<DIV></DIV>>>>be more difficult to submit an urgent rule change annex proposal
<DIV></DIV>>>>if the
<DIV></DIV>>>>vote deadline to reject it had passed. As the proposer, I would
<DIV></DIV>>>>really
<DIV></DIV>>>>like to have the Council go on record as rejecting the annex
<DIV></DIV>>>>proposal.
<DIV></DIV>>>>As an NSRCA member who would like the annex proposal to pass, that
<DIV></DIV>>>>would
<DIV></DIV>>>>probably not be the best option.
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>"Comments?"
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>Roin Van Putte
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>
<DIV></DIV>>>>
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