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<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002><FONT face=verdana>Eric,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002><FONT face=verdana>This is the kind of
concept I was advocating several months ago. Then</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002>I got replies on this list from NSRCA
officers that stated "non-member</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002>are not invited". N</SPAN><SPAN
class=307525717-11122002>on-members </SPAN><SPAN class=307525717-11122002>stay
out, we know what is best for</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002>pattern. PERIOD!</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002><FONT
face=verdana></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002><FONT face=verdana>This mentality must be
changed before we can move forward with what</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002>you envision for the future.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=307525717-11122002><FONT face=verdana>Larry Ott - AMA
9872</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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class=307525717-11122002>
- NSRCA 3381</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf
Of </B>Henderson,Eric<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 11, 2002 10:48
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'discussion@nsrca.org'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Involving the
pattern community as a whole.<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT face=verdana>Here is an approach
that I would have like to implemented on my watch!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT
face=verdana></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT face=verdana>What we need is a
register of ALL AMA members who are interested in pattern. This would be
easy to do/build with a simple expansion of the existing NSRCA membership
database. Non-NSRCA pattern members could then be include in the
distribution of such items as NSRCA surveys, major actions/issue
etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT face=verdana>There would probably
have to be a small cover charge for this registration, say $5, that would
cover our printing and mailing. The Regular NSRCA member would get the
K-Factor and the registered NSRCA member would get major announcements and the
big rules surveys etc.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT face=verdana>I imagine that we could
do is get the CD's to register pattern pilots with the NSRCA and then we could
include the people that are interested. Some kind of pitch like, "How would
you like to know what is going on with sport and have a vote/say in the
direction?" "Here, just fill in this form and I'll send it to the NSRCA
for you...."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT face=verdana>As they said to Steve
Austin, "We have the technology, we can rebuild you. Time for a new
approach to the NSRCA's promotional activities and
aspects?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT face=verdana>Regards, retiring
Eric.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT
face=verdana></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=041163417-11122002><FONT
face=verdana></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Troy Newman
[mailto:troy_newman@msn.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 11, 2002
11:44 AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Annex Fresh
Idea<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Once again another speaks out that not all pattern flyers are NSRCA
members!</DIV>
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<DIV>Sounds like a recurring theme?</DIV>
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<DIV>We all know the reasons.... they have been hashed many times....I think
part of our problem is we believe that we(NSRCA) are the sole keeper of the
flame....and to be honest....We are not. We were invited to the game. We did
start it, and we won't be finishing it either.</DIV>
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<DIV>Sure we can take our marbles and go home but that doesn't serve anyone's
interest. We did that in 94 with the N-PAC event.</DIV>
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<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I'm curious why we as the NSRCA are so close minded to non-NSRCA
members......?</DIV>
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<DIV>Does our $30 a year give us the right make rules and exclude others from
having input on the subject.....This is all done under the holy veil of
membership.....This exclusion of non-members is what is driving us down...not
because we don't have sexy website...or we don't have a perfect KF, or we
don't have press recognition in the magazines, or because we are not quick
enough in changing our sequences in order to compete with the other Aerobatics
kid in town.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think we are so concerned about new members...me included that we don't
include people that are not members...The answer is "Well Join up and get the
info." </DIV>
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<DIV>I've been guilty of this also...Maybe we need to open our doors and open
our minds....If we invite the neighborhood in with the idea of a BBQ....and
expect them to bring all the food how many will show?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>We need to give them a reason to be here and not a reason to stay
away!</DIV>
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<DIV>Thanks for sticking with us Chuck!!!! We are glad to have you and your
insight.</DIV>
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