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It will satisfy our needs, if the contest board feels that we have enough
sense to decide amongst ourselves what we want, and adopts that attitude
that "that government is best which governs least." I hope so.
I also feel that this is a band-aid approach that, for the present, is
necessary. I also hope that I'm wrong, and that it is, in fact, a
long term solution. Remember, we are dealing here with a group, (the
CB) that was willing, (and did so) to hold all the classes hostage for
the sake of their deleting one "offending" maneuver.
<p>Bill Glaze
<p>John Ferrell wrote:
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<font face="Arial">I believe that
will satisfy our needs.</font>John Ferrell
<br>6241 Phillippi Rd
<br>Julian NC 27283
<br>Phone: (336)685-9606
<br>Dixie Competition Products
<br>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW
<br>"My Competition is Not My Enemy"
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<a href="mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com" title="tony@radiosouthrc.com">Tony
Stillman</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" title="discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 27, 2002 9:20
AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Sequences for 2003</div>
<font face="Arial"><font size=+0>Just to let everyone know, the proposal
to go to an Annex system has been re-submitted to AMA. John Fuqua
contacted AMA and was able to come to a "compromise" that would be acceptable
to AMA on this issue.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=+0>The
proposal will allow for a maneuver schedule change by NSRCA making a survey
of members with some choices of new schedules. All maneuvers would
be listed in an "annex" that the schedules would be drawn up from.
Maneuvers can be added to the annex as needed. Once the membership
picks a specific schedule, it would be sent directly to the contest board
for approval. This should only take a couple of weeks, and could
done at anytime, if needed. Most likely, we will only want to change schedules
every two or three years. The idea is that we would not be "tied"
to the AMA rules cycle to make a change. We could also "correct"
any issues that might arise with a particular schedule by making needed
changes.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=+0>This is not
exactly what we wanted, but John feels that it is a good starting point,
and gets our "foot in the door" for further changes down the road.</font></font> <font face="Arial"><font size=+0>The
main issue is that we can make changes outside of the 3-years rules cycle,
if passed.</font></font> Tony Stillman
<br>Radio South, Inc.
<br>3702 N. Pace Blvd.
<br>Pensacola, Fl 32505
<br><a href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</a>
<br>800-962-7802
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<a href="mailto:troy_newman@msn.com" title="troy_newman@msn.com">Troy Newman</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org" title="discussion@nsrca.org">discussion</a></div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday, December 27, 2002 2:06
AM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Sequences for 2003</div>
The current AMA rules allow for a 3yr cycle. There have only been
submissions to change the Masters sequence in 2005. There are two choices
for this Masters 2005-2007 sequence. No other rules changes were submitted
to change the AMA classes of Sportsman, Intermediate, or Advanced. Now
there was a proposal to change to an Annex system where the NSRCA control
the sequences and they can change it anytime they want to. That failed
already and currently the people in support of this system are looking
for ways to get it passed by the AMA. With this exception there will be
no changes of the AMA Precision Aerobatics sequences until 2008. The reason
the current rules cycle began on Oct 1 of 2002 to make changes for 2005.
Since there was nothing submitted there will not be any changes in 2005
except a possible switch of the masters pattern. To my knowledge there
are two options. Important thing to remember guys as was discussed
at extreme length the NSRCA does NOT make any rules. Whether that changes
in future or not is up to the AMA. BUT the NSRCA is not the holder of the
rules, they are not the interpreter of the rules, and the NSRCA is not
a ruling body. We as the NSRCA look to the AMA for rules. We make suggestions
both as a group and as individual members and the AMA's processes control
the rules. I want to make a very strong point that its not some abstract
group that has no clue what's going on. The AMA contest board includes
many and mostly active flyers. There are some that are essentially inactive
in recent years but the Board is dominated by Pattern, IMAC competitors,
and TOC pilots. For the most part these guys are active in the Aerobatics
community and are members of the NSRCA and IMAC. The rules survey
said that the responding NSRCA members favored a 3yr rules cycle. This
is the current AMA cycle. If nobody submits a change there is no change
in the current system. Just some food for thought. I figured after
the tongue lashing given this topic over the past month it was clear. This
is the way the system operates TODAY....and will operate until 2005 unless
a Urgent change is made by the AMA. TN
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<div
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JZeigenfus@aol.com</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 26, 2002
9:11 PM</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><b>To:</b> discussion@nsrca.org</div>
<div style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: Sequences for 2003</div>
<font face="Arial"><font size=-1>There are no dumb questions. The
patterns are changed every three years. If you go to the web site you can
find the patterns listed for whichever class you are going to fly in. We
will be in the second year of the current pattern cycle. JEZ . <a href="msn://@mail.mar@/www.nsrca.org">www.nsrca.org</a></font></font></blockquote>
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