<HTML><BODY STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;"><DIV>I have only used DU-4 and DU-5 in the K36....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I went to my local PPG guy and asked for a primer-color and clear setup that used all the same catalyst.....Using the criteria for fuel proof stuff...and knowing that Tony STillman sells the PPG concept stuff.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This was many years ago...He gave me K36 and told me to treat it just like the DCC....In fact I double the amount of reducer on both it DCC and K36 and the 2020 clear..Then I found I can no longer use Concept 2020 for clear.....but now I'm out of clear so the Phenom will be another experiment with Clear or it will be no clear!...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The problem with the catalyst is it is only suppose to be good for 14 days after opening it....Read the label....Plexiglass glob.....But I stick it in the refrigerator and lasts for up to and over a year. The new stuff to use is the DCX61 I tried it on the latest bird Hydeaway and am painting with it now on my Phenom. Seems to act about the same.....But you can buy it in small quantities so storage is not an issue.....Also from what the guy told me at the PPG store the DCX and DU hardeners are not compatible.....and he has no idea if the DCX will work on the K36.....He said experiment with it...So I bought some 201 hardener for the primer on the Phenom.....The DCX may work.....I will try it on the wheel pants to be sure...I can't wait for a mistake this time and then sand it of....Time is getting critical on the Phenom paint job.....Moving to California in 2 weeks.....Trying to get the Phenom painted and ready to cover before the move.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>TN</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> george kennie</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:35 AM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> experimental</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>The other day I needed to put a coat of Concept Primer on the center<BR>section of my new wing so I went to my trusty paint box and pulled out<BR>the can of primer and stirred it up well, but when I opened the K-201<BR>catalyst it was about 1/4 full and had become a block of plexiglass in<BR>the bottom of the can.I knew I would have to wait about 6 days to get<BR>more from Brown so I decided to experiment. I had plenty of DU-5, but it<BR>mixes differently than K-201, but I decided to try it anyway.For the mix<BR>ratio I used the TLAR method and hoped for the best. I tested it first<BR>on the back of a piece of card stock and it dried in about 3-4 minutes<BR>and looked O.K. I then went ahead and painted the area under<BR>consideration and it too dried in a short period and when I sanded it<BR>the results appeared to be the same as if I had used K-201. I'm sure the<BR>manufacturer would certainly frown on this procedure, but I think when<BR>you're desperate this may be a viable alternative.<BR>G.<BR><BR>=====================================<BR># To be removed from this list, send a message to <BR># discussion-request@nsrca.org<BR># and put leave discussion on the first line of the body.<BR>#<BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML><br clear=all><hr>Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : <a href='http://explorer.msn.com'>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p>