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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#0000ff>Do we have to resort to a
rule of what constitutes unsportsmanlike conduct. The CD always has the right to
bar anyone from continuing in the contest for unsportsmanlike
conduct.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Del K. Rykert<BR> AMA - 8928
<BR> NSRCA - 473<BR> Kb2joi -
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jivey61@msn.com href="mailto:jivey61@msn.com">jim ivey</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 24, 2003 4:13
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judging behavior</DIV>
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<DIV> Roy</DIV>
<DIV>I think that was good sportsmanship on both sides.</DIV>
<DIV>I do have a problem with anyone standing at the judges tent or even in
hearing distance to the judges. I think this area should be off limits to all,
this way the judges can concentrate on the judging with no outside influence.
It did happen at the Nats last year during the Masters Finals and
should not happen even in local contests.</DIV>
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<DIV> Jim Ivey</DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=WHIP23@aol.com
href="mailto:WHIP23@aol.com">WHIP23@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 24, 2003 6:41
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Judging behavior</DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 1/24/03 5:42:56 AM Pacific Standard
Time, <A
href="mailto:eric.henderson@gartner.com">eric.henderson@gartner.com</A>
writes:<BR><BR>
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face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF">I have seen and heard
pilots planting the "seeds of doubt" in the minds of pilots who would
later judge their class. I once dealt with a top level pilot who was
standing behind the judges and next to other pilot judges. He was giving
loud detailed descriptions and remarks on whether a rival's plane was
snapping or not. A day or two later I took the time and trouble to try and
educate that pilot of the unsporting nature of this conduct. Result was
long term animosity.</FONT><FONT lang=0 style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff"
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR>Hi Eric<BR><BR>The problems you point out are real
and I must add that I was made aware of it by a VERY good display of
sportsmanship. I rolled the wrong way on the downline of a figure M
and realizing immediately the mistake I rolled right through the required
3/4 roll to 11/4 and continued on correct direction. As luck would
have it both judges missed the error, though one judge was pretty sure, but
not sure enough to zero the maneuver. When the flight was over the one
judge asked it I had (no change in score, already turned in at this point)
and I admitted that I had. When I walked away I found that my number
one competitor had been standing there and watched the flight and he HAD
caught the error, but to his credit and sportsmanship he said nothing.
Clearly he could have made some comment and probably pushed at least one of
the judges over the edge, maybe both. Should it be an issue, who
knows, I did make the error so you could argue that I deserve the
zero. On the other side all of us have been downgraded for things we
did not do, so to some degree it evens out. My opinion, when I step to
the line I am agreeing to be judged by the judges in the chair, not everyone
who happens to be watching. There are several reasons, one of which is
that the spectator who comments will probably not be watching other flights
and certainly not his own, so adding his opinion to the score defeats the
theory of a level playing field. I'm not sure that if this situation
had not occurred I would have thought this through enough to realize how
much we can effect the results of an event by simple, offhand
comments. At the same time, a lot of the fun of pattern, for me
anyway, is discussions about flying, so we need a happy middle ground.
Clearly, comments about a flight, within ear shot of the judges, during the
flight is not acceptable. Now, I know everyone is wondering who was
the good sport. <BR><BR><BR><BR>Roy Spieghts<BR><BR>I should also add
that Roy once compared me to a blind squirrel, but that's a different
story!!<BR><BR>Bye<BR><BR>Bob<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>