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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know what you meant Verne I was just jerking you
around a bit havin' a little fun....The counter Balance is about 1.25" shorter,
the top of the rudder is a little wider (3/8") and the bottom of the rudder
is a little narrower say 1/4"....If you received a kit in 2002 I or late 2001 I
would bet its a "Z" version.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The difference is almost not noticeable in the air.
The main difference is about 4-5% less roll mix on the large rudder
deflections....Also the bigger counter balance at high speeds will tend to
wiggle a little on knife..."control Snatch". the smaller counter balance is less
noticeable in the wiggle and has less mixing for roll when doing high rudder
throws like 30+ digs for the 1/2 knife edge loops thingy in the "F-03"
pattern.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In all honesty you are flying Masters there is not
maneuver in your sequence where you would see, feel or know the difference...In
the F3A sequences the 1 roll loops, 1 roll circles and knife edge loop segments
are showing the mix...The non Z rudder will still fly better than 99% of the
people moving the sticks....Maybe at the worlds in the finals Roland and Quique
can feel the difference. I can tell the difference...but it's not affecting my
level of precision on those maneuvers. I still have work ahead of me on those
maneuvers...and that work is not a plane thing its a thumbs and fingers
thing.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TN</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne Koester</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:18
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Smaragd</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=4>Troy,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>I gathered that, but where does one find the new shape? The
photos on the PL site all look the same to me.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Verne</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>BTW, marshmallow is WAY lighter than Reese's Peanut Butter
Cups.....</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=troy_newman@msn.com href="mailto:troy_newman@msn.com">Troy
Newman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, March 30, 2003 1:36
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Smaragd</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Well lets see? What could change on the rudder?
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My latest Z rudder was made out of marsh
mellows and other lucky charms.....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know of at least one guy that his rudder was
made from chocolate truffles....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I think a rudder made out of Reese's Peanut
Butter cup material would be superior to the marsh mellow one. The chocolate
on the outside would help keep its shape in the sun....Or better yet the
M&M stuff...hard candy shell around the chocolate. I wonder where those
M&M guys get their hard candy shells? I also wonder if it can be made to
match Ultacote?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wow I must have spent way to much time in the
sun today....</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Verne I love ya baby....Its shape
changed</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TN</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=verne@twmi.rr.com href="mailto:verne@twmi.rr.com">Verne
Koester</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2003 7:57
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Smaragd</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>What changed on the rudder?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4>Verne</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=4></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=troy_newman@msn.com href="mailto:troy_newman@msn.com">Troy
Newman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2003
10:21 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Smaragd</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thrust and rudder are the only
differences...The fin is identical on both versions.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TN</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Patternrules@aol.com
href="mailto:Patternrules@aol.com">Patternrules@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, March 29, 2003
3:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Smaragd</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial
size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><B>Troy, is the thrust, cg, and fin and
rudder the only difference's in the Z.<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" face="Courier New" color=#000000
size=2 FAMILY="FIXED"><I>Thanks<BR>Steve Maxwell</B></I></FONT>
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