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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The reason pattern is so quiet is the pattern
community implemented rules that gave you no choice. Be quiet or don't
compete. IMAC is now starting down the same path. Just like pattern,
IMAC won't get quiet overnight. These airplanes (pattern and
IMAC) eat up a lot of airspace. Couple that with a full weekend,
daybreak to sunset, of nonstop flying, you will get hammered by the
neighbors if not quiet. The general sport flyers, who most of all
just likes to burn fuel every chance they get, either don't want to spend the
extra money, or don't have the extra money to get quiet. When they see a
nice quiet pattern plane whispering through the air, all they see is
$$$$$$$$$$. So, how do we set an example for people to follow?
Do we look down on everyone else and say amongst ourselves "I
wish they would be more like us so we don't lose our field." Or do we
pro-actively set an example at the field by lets say, purchasing a
sport plane and making it quiet with readily available equipment and get out and
tear up the sky with them. You could also pass the transmitter around and
let people see what an awesome experience flying a super quiet pattern bird
is. Walk around the pits and show some interest in peoples sport planes,
and at the same time let people know how cool it would be if it were quiet
instead of how stupid noisy it is. At the last TOC, there was a .40
sized airplane flying one evening after the event ended amongst the Hacker
electric powered demo planes. I was convinced it was electric
too until it flew by close enough to see the exhaust trail behind the
pipe. It was amazingly quiet. I'm still in search of that exhaust
system today.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Anyway, I could go on and on. All I'm saying
is if we want to keep peace with the neighbors, lets set a positive example that
people <U><STRONG>want</STRONG></U> to follow instead of making them
follow. Be pro-active, not reactive.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,<BR>Adam Quennoz<BR>AMA 383866<BR>IMAC
2439<BR>NSRCA 3546<BR>President: Bolivar Sport Flyers R/C club</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><B>From:</B> <A title=ronlock@comcast.net
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 19, 2003 12:45
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Quiet pattern planes</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'm with you on a lot of
this. I too, wish the pattern example </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>would have </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>a
bigger impact on the rest of the communities. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There are some subtle improvements,
</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>more clubs now have </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>noise specs than 15 years ago. Several
sport engines, while </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>still not "quiet", are quieter than
they were 15 years ago. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>There is more quiet </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2>related mufflers, mounts, props, etc. on </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the market than years ago. </FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2>Mainly I'm </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>supporting
the</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2> good </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>example we are putting out
there.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Later, Ron Lockhart</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 19, 2003 1:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Quiet pattern planes</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Yea, yea. I was there at the inception of "QUIET" too.
And cut my teeth on it as well<BR><BR>What I'm saying is that<BR>with the
exception of a couple gliders and a few electrics, hardly anyone else is
trying to go real quiet. And the pattern community has been preaching it and
livimg it for 15+ years now. <BR><BR>The message isn't getting through to
the sport flier especially when he shows up with the biggest, baddest noise
box around. How can he do that? Well, it's available, thats how. To belabor
the obvious, just look in any magazine, including the AMA's own. The AD $
pay their bills on one hand, and cause their demise of their (our) flying
fields on the other. Go figure!!<BR><BR><BR><BR>Matt Kebabjian<BR><BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>Re: Quiet pattern planes </B><BR>Date:4/19/2003
12:50:35 PM Eastern Daylight Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">ronlock@comcast.net</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I>Sent
from the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR>I'm proud to be part of the pattern
community that led the way to</FONT><FONT lang=0
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">quiet high performance aerobatics. The benefits
of quiet are difficult</FONT><FONT lang=0
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">to quantify, but I think there are many.</FONT><FONT
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">Later, Ron Lockhart</FONT><FONT
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TYPE="CITE">----- Original Message ----- <BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:RUDDERCABL@aol.com">RUDDERCABL@aol.com</A> <BR><B>To:</B>
<A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, April 19, 2003 12:55 AM<BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: Quiet pattern planes<BR><BR><BR>In a message dated 4/18/2003 4:39:19
PM Eastern Daylight Time, <A
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A>
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Folks, I think we may have been duped on this noise thing.
I love my stealthy pattern plane, but nobody else does. unless I'm
flying alone, nobody else cares whetehr I hear my plane or
not!</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>!<BR><BR> Matt<BR> <BR> I don't
think we have been "duped" on having quiet planes. There was a time in
my life that hearing screaming engines was a joy , however , I now much
more prefer the lower volume of our planes . To me , the
tone of a muffled four stroke at full throttle is the sweetest sound in
our hobby . <BR><BR>I agree that nobody else cares whether or not I can
hear my plane . On the other hand , should noise become an issue with
the nieghbors around our field , everyone would care whether or not I
could hear my plane.<BR><BR>Robert Gainey</FONT><FONT lang=0
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