<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Eric is right about the AMA rule book being vague on this point, however, the judging committee provided a more detailed interpretation that should be used. This is why our nsrca judging committee exists. At 2002 Nats, the judging committee clarification was read/reviewed with all the Advanced pilots at the pilot meeting to be sure that everyone knew that we would be judged based on the NSRCA clarification to the AMA rule, not just the AMA rule.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">I think the clarification is judgeable and clear. I would assume all CDs would communicate the same information at local contests, because it is clear that this is the criteria used at Nats. See the NSRCA web site for details.</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">When this schedule was submitted (7/99) the spin description was not written in detail. There had been, and were, existing down-lines after spins with 1/4 loop with 1/2 roll exits. I have seen some odd interpretations about how long the down-line should be and when the 1/2 roll should be performed. </font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">From a judging point of view there is no AMA rule book specification of how long the down-line has to be. I have not seen a rule book specification of any required horizontal line length other than an exit line. Seeing as how it is the last maneuver in the box the only real limit is getting it done before you leave the box. :-)</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Is there an AMA rule book description that I have missed that gives a better judging guideline???</font>
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<br><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial">Eric.</font>
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From:</b> discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<b>On Behalf Of </b>Woodward James R Civ 412 TW/DRP (Test Ops)<b><br>
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<br><font size=2 color=#000080 face="Arial">Also, I'd add follow this link and read the maneuver descriptions. It is more than good reading if it has been a while......</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Arial">It is a 2 1/2 turn spin, push to horizontal, then half roll to upright.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Arial"><b>From:</b> </font><a href="mailto:tomanekw@saic-abingdon.com"><font size=2 color=blue face="Arial"><u>Tomanek, Wojtek</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Arial"> </font>
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<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Wow, that is a diffrent interpretation of how I have been flying it. On the NSRCA call sheet the manuever is described as " 2 1/2 turn spin with a half roll out". Silly me I have been practicing a 2 1/2 turn spin with an established downline then half roll in the downline followed by more downline (hope I started real high) then an upright exit. Am I to understand that the actual manuever is "2 1/2 turn spin exit inverted half roll out" to landing? </font>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">Does there exist a set of drawings for these manuevers somewhere? My old AMA rule book does not have them.<br>
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<br><font size=2 color=#000080 face="Arial">I believe that it does not matter, when coming out of the spin you need to pause going down, then level the plane (90 deg) to a horizontal flight, then pause (straight inverted flight) and then roll. The pause shall not be larger than the radius of the downline to horizontal transition but it has to be there unlike in the Immelman </font>
<br><font size=3 color=#000080 face="Times New Roman">"2 1/2 turn spin exit inverted half roll out" to landing?" = correct, but better announce that landing</font>
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