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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=2>He makes both the ARI(A)
(nose ring built-in) and a stiffer "A" mount, (no nose ring) for the 2-C. I have
seen and used both on 2C engines. I have fitted a 3M to these mounts with
absolutely no clearance problems.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=2>Note: the Webra is taller
than either OS or 3M and doesn't need the clearance and will work on regular
mounts</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#000080 size=2>Ken B.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=Eric.Henderson@gartner.com
href="mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com">HendersonEric</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 28, 2003 7:17
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: 3M Engines</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=681411600-29042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Did
I mention that Merle makes a 2-c mount that clears the
header??</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=681411600-29042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=681411600-29042003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Eric.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B><A
href="mailto:s.vannostrand@kodak.com">s.vannostrand@kodak.com</A><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Monday, April 28, 2003 3:36 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
RE: 3M Engines<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Dean's
suggestion has been misinterpreted. He ismaking a creative suggestion to
flip the mount over and use it upside down. Dean is saying that if you
mount the engine to the bottom of the Hyde mount (turn it 180 degrees from
normal) then the Mintor header will clear the puck. </FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>This concerns me for several reasons:
</FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>1. The engine is no longer on the
centerline of the puck - I think this will accentuate translation problems.
</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>2. This is completely
unnecessary if you already are using an OS/Hatori header. The dimensions
are the same. </FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>3. This is
completely unecessary if you are building your plane and can mount the engine
at the very ends of the rails</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>4.
Thisis comletely unecessary if you use a Macs or Mueller header, since they
don't have O-rings and therefore have dimensions that fit</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>5. This is completely unecessary if you get a custom
mount from "mount man" below that fits the Hyde bolt pattern.</FONT>
<BR><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>--Lance</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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<TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>"Dean Pappas"
<d.pappas@kodeos.com></B></FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=1>Sent by: discussion-request@nsrca.org</FONT>
<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>04/28/2003 01:47 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1>Please respond to discussion</FONT> <BR></P>
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Subject: RE: 3M
Engines</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>Hi,<BR>With the Hyde mount inverted, the engine mounting surface is
about 1/2" higher than the center of the hockey-puck. The whole mount moves
down the same amount ... so the firewall gets three new mounting holes. I have
had no problem with both an FZ a number of two-strokes in the JEKYLL. You need
a nose-ring, of course.<BR>Dean<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From:
wgalligan [mailto:wgalligan@cnbcom.net]<BR>Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 1:51
PM<BR>To: discussion@nsrca.org<BR>Subject: Re: 3M Engines<BR><BR><BR>Why would
you have to drill new hole in the firewall. The 3M fits just like an
O.S. 1.40 to the dimension. If you use the oring header and already have
an engine mounted the header coupler may hit. This is cured by moving
the engine out to the end of the mount beams. If the engine mount is
already set in the plane then a Karl Mueller header willl work. He makes
one for us that fits great and will clear the mount. His headers are
T&A <VBG> or email me off list for the fix I have and I'll
send ou a photo.<BR><BR>WG<BR><BR> thinking out loud. <BR>> <BR>>
Would that not put the center of the engine off the center of the >
mount? Like maybe 3/8" off center? Does it matter?<BR>> <BR>> GW<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> ----- Original Message ----- <BR>>
From: Dean Pappas <BR>> To: discussion@nsrca.org <BR>>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2003 10:05 AM<BR>> Subject: RE: 3M
Engines<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> The standard Hyde mount will
accomodate the 3M or O.S. headers if it > is inverted. This does require
drilling new holes in the firewall.<BR>> Regards,<BR>>
Dean P.<BR>> -----Original Message-----<BR>>
From: Kenneth Velez [mailto:kvelez@rochester.rr.com]<BR>>
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 9:42 PM<BR>> To:
discussion@nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: 3M Engines<BR>>
<BR>> <BR>> Hello everyone,<BR>> <BR>>
I have a question to those using the 3M Mintor engines. I'm trying > to
figure out if the exhaust port bolt pattern is the same as in the OS > 1.40
RX. I can not use the stock heather on my plane set up because it > hits
the engine mount and I was wondering if the Mac's heather for the > OS will
fit.<BR>> Thanks in advance.<BR>> <BR>>
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