<HTML><FONT FACE=arial,helvetica><FONT SIZE=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0">In a message dated 5/3/2003 7:35:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, randy10926@comcast.net writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px">Subj:<B>4 pt roll </B><BR>
Date:5/3/2003 7:35:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time<BR>
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Thanks for the reply.<BR>
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To re-phrase what I think I read. As a judge; if the roll rate is so <BR>
fast that I am not sure that all points existed as hestiations, then I <BR>
can issue a downgrade for a missed point or points. A missed point <BR>
would be a major downgrade.<BR>
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Randy Hatfield</BLOCKQUOTE><BR>
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Randy,<BR>
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Roll rate, the speed at which rolling is done, does not matter. You can peg the stick if you want to for each quarter roll; or do a slow entry for each quarter roll, except be careful you don't run out of room when doing one slowy.<BR>
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What matters is that the rate be constant and that the hesitations are visible, of constant duration, and obvious to the judge. If the hesitations are too short and not obvious, then, you know what's coming<BR>
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All the other items the book describes, apply of course, like hitting the points every 90 degrees, centering, and distance out, to name a few (in that order of importance and not belabor the obvious). <BR>
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We in the JC just recently discussed certain issues wth point rolls. Don Ramsey will be writing an article for the KFactor and discussing these.<BR>
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BTW- remember that if you run out of room and you do not show the appropriate amount of straight and level before the turnaround, 2 point downgrade on your TA for this infraction alone.<BR>
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Matt</FONT></HTML>