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<DIV>New at the judging game…</DIV>
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<DIV>********To re-phrase what I think I read. As a judge; if the roll
rate is so <BR>fast that I am not sure that all points existed as hestiations,
then I <BR>can issue a downgrade for a missed point or points. A missed
point <BR>would be a major downgrade.***********</DIV>
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<DIV>If even one point is missed (no hesitation), would this warrant a zero
vs major downgrade as it is not a 4 point roll? Is this view too critical for
the four point roll?<BR></DIV>
<DIV>Curious…</DIV>
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<DIV>Larry<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, May 03, 2003 9:50
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 4 pt roll</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0 face=Arial size=2
FAMILY="SANSSERIF">In a message dated 5/3/2003 7:35:29 PM Eastern Daylight
Time, <A href="mailto:randy10926@comcast.net">randy10926@comcast.net</A>
writes:<BR><BR><BR>
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TYPE="CITE">Subj:<B>4 pt roll </B><BR>Date:5/3/2003 7:35:29 PM Eastern
Daylight Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:randy10926@comcast.net">randy10926@comcast.net</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I>Sent from
the Internet </I><BR><BR><BR><BR>Thanks for the reply.<BR><BR>To re-phrase
what I think I read. As a judge; if the roll rate is so <BR>fast that
I am not sure that all points existed as hestiations, then I <BR>can issue a
downgrade for a missed point or points. A missed point <BR>would be a
major downgrade.<BR><BR>Randy Hatfield</BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Randy,<BR><BR>Roll
rate, the speed at which rolling is done, does not matter. You can peg the
stick if you want to for each quarter roll; or do a slow entry for each
quarter roll, except be careful you don't run out of room when doing one
slowy.<BR><BR>What matters is that the rate be constant and that the
hesitations are visible, of constant duration, and obvious to the judge. If
the hesitations are too short and not obvious, then, you know what's
coming<BR><BR>All the other items the book describes, apply of course, like
hitting the points every 90 degrees, centering, and distance out, to name a
few (in that order of importance and not belabor the obvious). <BR><BR>We in
the JC just recently discussed certain issues wth point rolls. Don Ramsey will
be writing an article for the KFactor and discussing these.<BR><BR>BTW-
remember that if you run out of room and you do not show the appropriate
amount of straight and level before the turnaround, 2 point downgrade on
your TA for this infraction alone.<BR><BR>Matt</FONT>
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