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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Well that makes a difference. I'll
try it next time. Should be soon.</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jim</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>- PS: What's control line? jk</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Dean Pappas
[mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 05, 2003 12:52
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>discussion@nsrca.org</span></font><font
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: 3M Mintor 170
questions</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Hi Jim,</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Wide Open Throttle.</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Most workable 2-cycle
setups, 'till now have needed pipes long enough to cure mid-range
ills, that a 10 degree WOT dive causes richening, and even
quitting!</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>It's a Control-Line piped
Stunt setup.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Dean</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Woodward James R Civ 412
TW/DRP/ACQ [mailto:James.Woodward2@edwards.af.mil]<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 05, 2003 3:44 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> discussion@nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: 3M Mintor 170
questions</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Dean,</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I'm still sort of
new. Does W.O.T. = with out throttle? On 45 degree downlines of
medium length like the reverse Cuban eight from the top (Masters sequence), I'd
say the motor just unloads some. If it were lean, it might cut-out for a
second when throttling up. If it were rich, it might gurgle or give signs
of loading up. The 140 or 170 do neither. They just increase in rpm
as the throttle is increased. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the 140 setup (15%
C.P., 2 OSA5), I needed to lean the low-end screw 1/8 turn during the 2<sup>nd</sup>
tank on the ground. This setting has held fine since, now with 1.5
gallons through it. The engines will idle very low, however, I raise it
to 2000 for takeoff and flight. </span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Your technique is the
first I've heard of like this. So, once you get this one flight profile
right, you find a prop that gets the torque you want?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:1.0in'><font size=2 color=blue
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Thanks
for the response Jim,</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>That
sounds right, though I just like more prop and more quiet.</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>When you
dive W.O.T at about 15 degrees or so ( simulating using windup for extremely
windy conditions) does the engine lean/richen/or just unload ? With the 17-13
on the 140, I shortened 'till the richening was gone. That was just under
1" gap from stock.</span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Dean</span></font></p>
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