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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"
color=#0000ff>Randy.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#0000ff> Please
take this in the kind ribbing it is sent with but we all have had our moments
when flying and judging. We are all constantly re-evaluating what is the best
way to interpret what we think we saw the pilot perform. Judges do make
mistakes. Good judges make fewer mistakes. Dedicated judges hardly make any and
will acknowledge the fact if they missed something. It happens. We are all human
beings try to do something that aspires to perfection. </FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#0000ff> Keep
your eyes and ears open and listen and learn. Remember to keep having fun first
and foremost though. My 2 cents..</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Del K. Rykert<BR> AMA - 8928
<BR> NSRCA - 473<BR> Kb2joi -
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=randy10926@comcast.net href="mailto:randy10926@comcast.net">glenn
hatfield</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 05, 2003 6:27 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: 4 pt roll</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>I think I am starting to get a better undersanding to
presentation as <BR>the pilots responsibilty. And I have been hearing
this rom Don S. for <BR>several years now. You thnik I would have
listened better before.<BR><BR>Randy<BR><BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: <A href="mailto:WHIP23@aol.com">WHIP23@aol.com</A><BR>Date:
Saturday, May 3, 2003 11:55 pm<BR>Subject: Re: 4 pt roll<BR><BR>> In a
message dated 5/3/03 8:03:25 AM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR>> <A
href="mailto:troy_newman@msn.com">troy_newman@msn.com</A> writes:<BR>>
<BR>> > <BR>> > The key is it is up to you the pilot to define the
roll enough <BR>> so that the<BR>> > judge does NOT question
it.....<BR>> > <BR>> > You can be right as rain and present
hesitations that are quick <BR>> with a<BR>> > slower roll rate and
the judge may not see the hesitations as <BR>> defined as <BR>> >
you<BR>> > think they are.....Its your job as a pilot to give him
something to<BR>> > judge....If you open the door for a
downgrade.....You will get <BR>> it from some<BR>> > judge.<BR>>
> <BR>> > <BR>> <BR>> Troy, much as I hate to agree with you
:-) this is the answer to <BR>> most of the <BR>> "judging questions"
that I see come up, if you leave an element so <BR>> vague that <BR>> it
requires too much interpretation from the judge you will draw <BR>> the
<BR>> downgrade, sooner or later. The less you ask from the judge
<BR>> (interpretation) <BR>> the better your scores will be. We
all seem to expect the judging <BR>> to be <BR>> perfect (I'm guilty),
we don't fly perfect, but we expect the <BR>> judging to be <BR>>
perfect, it never will be (the flying or the judging) Remember, <BR>>
part of your <BR>> job (my opinion anyway) is to make it easy for the judge
to <BR>> see/understand <BR>> that you performed the maneuver correctly,
<BR>> <BR>> My work here is done (flame suit on) I'm outta' here<BR>>
<BR>> Bob<BR>> <BR><BR>=====================================<BR># To be
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