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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Hanson 26% Dalotel makes a great Pattern/Imac
dual purpose plane that easily comes in under 11lbs. Mine has ST2300 and
is both fun and competitive. Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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<A title=tedsander@attbi.com href="mailto:tedsander@attbi.com">Ted Sander</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:Discussion@Nsrca. Org">Discussion@Nsrca. Org</A> ; <A
title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 11, 2003 3:16 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Design: Dihedral
Recommendation</DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Matt
-<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt">Yep,
my thoughts exactly – This project all came about because last summer a) I
crashed my Calypso (yeah, “old fashioned”, but a heck of a aerobatic plane),
and b) out of how much I’ve learned to dislike my H9 ARF CAP.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That one I had to add 1 lb of dead
batteries to the nose.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I’m making
sure the new one will work out correctly!<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Fine for a Sunday sport flyer,
horrible for anything precision.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>BTW – I’m using an FPE 2.4 gasser, which replaced the YS 1.20 it used
to have.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>After pipes, alum. hard
mounts, etc. were removed and replaced – the all up weight was the same – 48
oz of stuff for each engine.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes">
</SPAN>Doesn’t count the ignition batteries….but I needed nose weight
anyway!<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>That’s why the hopes I
can campaign with this as a dual purpose plane – Pattern and IMAC.<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Should be able to hit the 11lbs, if
I’m really, really careful.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
Rcmaster199@aol.com [mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com]<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, May 11, 2003 10:52
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
tedsander@attbi.com<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: Design: Dihedral Recommendation</SPAN></FONT></P>
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size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">In a
message dated 5/10/2003 11:54:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, tedsander@attbi.com
writes:<BR><BR><BR style="mso-special-character: line-break"><![if !supportLineBreakNewLine]><BR
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Subj:<B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">RE: Design: Dihedral Recommendation
</SPAN></B><BR>Date:5/10/2003 11:54:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time<BR>From:<A
href="mailto:tedsander@attbi.com">tedsander@attbi.com</A><BR>Reply-to:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>To:<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR><I><SPAN
style="FONT-STYLE: italic">Sent from the Internet
</SPAN></I><BR><BR><BR><BR>Thanks George - FYI, I'm anticipating ending up
with about 3.5 degrees of<BR>right thrust. I'll start with 3, and adjust
from there. Down will start at<BR>zero, and be set as flight testing
dictates. Gas engine, big prop (20x10).<BR>Vert. Stab/Rudder will be
counterbalanced. Planform isn't too far different<BR>than on a
Focus.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=black size=2><SPAN
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><BR><BR>Ted,<BR><BR>You
want a small amount of downthrust if you want the model to track true vertical
up lines. For this size model, about 11/2 to 2 degrees down is a good place to
start. If the model is going to be used mostly as a fun flyer, different
story. It matters alot less.<BR><BR>Your right thrust is also about right for
the large gassie<BR><BR>One other consideration is wing placement. The gassie
is heavier than alkies, so you should probably start with a foreward wing
location, to keep the CG from needing too much tail weight, even if you are
planning to use elevator servos in the tail. At least 1" further forward to
start. If you do move the wing, then the down and right thrusts become more
important. Think shorter moment<BR><BR>Matt K</SPAN></FONT><FONT
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