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<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jim,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I have
a few questions,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>140
turns APC 16.5 x 12W @ 8350</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>170
turns APC 17 x 12 @ 8100 </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>both
with 15% Cool power?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>How
rich are the engines running?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I am
not sure how the two props are loading when use on a same engine, but the output
figures sound like 140 is running better.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>How
about fuel consumption of both engines?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Thanks,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=961421016-12052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Ihncheol Park</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> discussion-request@nsrca.org
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On Behalf Of </B>Woodward James R Civ
412 TW/DRP/ACQ<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 12, 2003 8:43 AM<BR><B>To:</B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: MINTOR<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi Eric,
Dean,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I've ran the both the
3M 140 and 170. </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The 140 only saw 15%
Cool Power and two OSA5 plugs. From the first start in my drive way it
ran as good as you can expect a new engine to run. I ran two tanks using
idle, mid, and W.O.T. Then, took to flying it. After a few
flights, engine was tached at 8350 with the apc 16.5 x 12W (with header cut
1.0"). </SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">The 170 saw 25% Cool
Power from the start, with 1 OSA5 and 1 OSF. This weekend, I switched to
15% Cool Power and two OSA5 plugs. I needed to readjust the high and low
end. High end was about 5/8 turn leaner. After a few flights, it
was turning the 17 x 12 apc at 8100. At this ground setting, the uplines
did not show any signs of sagging. Maneuvers like the top hat w/ ¾ up,
or the figure 9 with 3/2 can be as tall as you like - really cruising over the
top. Also, header is cut 1.0" shorter than stock.
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">What I noticed this
weekend using the 15% fuel, which was not as prevalent with the 25% fuel, is
that when landing, I needed to lower the idle trim. At launch, idle was
1900-2000. All the ground running and throttling would always come down
and hit the idle speed. However, after the full flight, I needed to
lower the trim or it would want to float on by. </SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Jim
W.</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"></SPAN></FONT> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Dean
Pappas [mailto:</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">d.pappas@kodeos.com</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">]
<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">Monday,
May 12, 2003</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">8:03
AM</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> </SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">discussion@nsrca.org</SPAN></FONT><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"><BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> MINTOR</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Hi
Eric,</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dean
here ... The 140 finds K&B 1-L plugs too hot, the "F"s have got to be even
moreso!</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I found
the same issue with needing a few minutes of running to loosen-up adequately
in order to be able to run at W.O.T.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">It helps
to fatten the mid-range with the idle mixture screw.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You will
find it has a tremendous amount of authority over the mid-range mixture, and
can <EM><I><FONT face=Arial><SPAN
style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial">easily</SPAN></FONT></I></EM> over-lean the engine
there.</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Dean</SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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