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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#0000ff>I would guess they whys
would be of great interest so others could avoid repeating the premature demise
of a plane. The how it fly's are largely subjective opinion anyway. What is ones
treasure is another's nightmare.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Del K. Rykert<BR> AMA - 8928
<BR> NSRCA - 473<BR> Kb2joi -
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<A title=jbudd@QNET.COM href="mailto:jbudd@QNET.COM">Jerry Budd</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: F3A Biplanes have a
future!</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Re: the flying wires, I'm pretty sure it didn't have
any.<BR><BR>Eric, I agree the "how it flew" should be of more interest but I
<BR>don't think you're going to get much (if any) information of <BR>substance
from a 45 second flight (regardless of what the pilot may <BR>tell
you).<BR><BR>Jerry<BR><BR>>My data source says that wing mount sides were
primarily balsa and <BR>>needed a simple lite ply plate to remedy the
situation.<BR>><BR>>I am not sure why we are so interested in the
failure aspect when <BR>>the "how it flew" is what peaks my interest. I am
tracking the <BR>>Bi-plane "adventure" and so far it seems they snap
recover better, <BR>>roll much better, circles etc. this is because they
transition <BR>>between wing lift and fuselage lift much better than the
current <BR>>mono's..<BR>><BR>>Eric.<BR>><BR>>-----Original
Message-----<BR>>From: <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A><BR>>[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]On
Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz<BR>>Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 9:17
AM<BR>>To: <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>>Subject:
RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!<BR>><BR>><BR>>Well, you may want to
add that it failed because he was supposed to install<BR>>the flying wires
and didn't... Or so I heard.<BR>><BR>>-----Original
Message-----<BR>>From: <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A>
[mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] On<BR>>Behalf Of Jerry
Budd<BR>>Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 11:31 PM<BR>>To: <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>>Subject:
RE: F3A Biplanes have a future!<BR>><BR>><BR>>Chip Hyde's crashed
about a minute into the first flight due to a<BR>>structural failure of the
wing(s).<BR>><BR>>>What other biplane has crashed due to wing failure
besides the one
I<BR>>>reported?<BR>>><BR>>>Peter<BR>>><BR>>>-----Original
Message-----<BR>>>From: Jerry Budd
[mailto:jbudd@QNET.COM]<BR>>>Sent: Wednesday, 14 May 2003 12:16
AM<BR>>>To: <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A><BR>>>Subject:
Re: F3A Biplanes have a future!<BR>>><BR>>><BR>>>>That
makes three (publically known) biplane projects going on
right<BR>>>>now. Just when you think you've got the best....
;> Time to spend<BR>>>>more
money.<BR>>><BR>>>Two of which crashed on their first flight due
to structural failure of<BR>>>the wings.<BR>>><BR>>>More
money is right.<BR>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>I'm rather torn on
this biplane issue. Should FAI add a new rule
that<BR>>>>outlaws them? On one hand, I'm sure they will
improve our flights,<BR>>>>but on the other I don't want them to be
advantage over the planes we<BR>>>>have now. Kind of like changing
the 2m size limit to 2.5m. The guys<BR>>>>with the big
factories behind them will have an advantage, while the<BR>>>>rest of
us will be alienated. Going to biplanes might be no
different<BR>>>>than going to 2.5m,<BR>>>only<BR>>>>it
isn't against the rules. Or, it might be like the switch to
2m<BR>>>>planes from the .60 planes. I would hate to go back to
a 0.60 after<BR>>>>flying a 2m.<BR>>><BR>>>Pattern will
die before we go back to 0.60 sized airplanes. Pandora's<BR>>>box was
opened a long time ago.<BR>>><BR>>>><BR>>>>That said,
I want a biplane. I do expect they will fly better,
which<BR>>>>is certainly a good thing, and someone has to develop
them before I<BR>>>>get to fly it.<BR>>><BR>>>When
someone can properly define what "flying better" is, then we
have<BR>>>something that can be debated. Until then this is just
marketing.<BR>>><BR>>>Jerry<BR>>>--<BR>>>___________<BR>>>Jerry
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