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class=460400012-24052003>All,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=460400012-24052003>I'm not going to respond to this at all on this list or
any other. This person and I have established dates to complete these
projects, and that's, that. This is not food for the masses to feed on, and I
would hope it would be removed from the list.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=460400012-24052003>Thanks, Van</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>SteveK101@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 23, 2003 11:42
PM<BR><B>To:</B> pattern@rcmailinglists.com;
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [SA] van is at it again?
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">The attached article was posted on the IMAC list... I have
sanitized it but is this the same Van Flowers that was recently on the cover
of the K-Factor and I believe is the K-Factor advertising manager? I
realize there are always three sides to every story but well, just read... and
FWIW???<BR><BR>Hello, my name is R, I have been a model Airplane enthusiast
for<BR>almost 6 years now. Recently upon my desire to fly bigger and
better<BR>aircraft. I ran across Van Flowers, and have let him do a
BUNCH of my<BR>building work. Because me experience level at dealing
with anything other<BR>than arf's or smaller kits, is very limited. Well
over the past year and a<BR>half Van has done a number of planes for me.
The ones that I have actually<BR>received from him, flew great. But in
the past 8 months, It's like he has<BR>become non-existent.<BR><BR>Recently
you have been swapping email with my good friend J.<BR>I am the friend he has
been referring to in his emails.<BR><BR>I have been riding Van very hard the
past few months trying to get<BR>?something? out of him. He can't even
give me a status report. All I can<BR>say is that, he's one shady son of a
bitch. He'll feel you ears full of<BR>candy, so he can f**k you a little
deeper. Sorry, I'm getting carried away.<BR>Just to give you an idea of
the magnitude of my problem, here is what he<BR>currently has of
mine.<BR><BR>1. Fiber Classics Extra w/ DA150 and 8411's<BR>
(Supposedly - it is getting airbrushed) All the money was paid
in<BR>advance 9 mos ago (2,000 for Airbrush work) At this point I
don't think<BR>there has been s**t done to it. I keep asking for
pictures, but get nothing<BR><BR>2. 46% ultimate All paid
~$10,000<BR><BR>3. 2 - Great Knives ~$2500<BR><BR>4. 1
- Weeks Bipe ~$5000<BR><BR>5. 2 Engines that have quote
"Been Ordered" for 8 months now ~ $2000<BR><BR>there are a few
more, but this is the majority.<BR><BR><BR>I'm not sure what to do at this
point. Between me and J, that f**ker<BR>probably has over 25k of our
money at this point.<BR><BR>I have heard that you have had similar problems
with him. Someone needs to<BR>ruin that bastard.<BR><BR><BR>thanks for
your time<BR><BR><BR>Sincerely,<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BODY></HTML>