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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I'll take two plezzz....</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=gene.maurice@attbi.com href="mailto:gene.maurice@attbi.com">Gene
Maurice</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2003 1:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Mintor eyes only/Power wish
list</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=464273118-29052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OK,
try this on for size OS160FX (< $250), Perry Regulator Pump ($27), KM
Header ($45), Mac's 15cc Quiet Pipe ($78), AFC SS double sealed bearing ($15),
total cost right at $400 INCLUDING exhaust system!! NOW the kicker:
APC 17x12 standard blade (read wide) 8300 RPM (APC 16.5x13 W turns about the
same) on Magnum 15%, idles at < 1800 RPM all day long, transitions
almost "4 stroke like". Though it has not been measured with a sound meter, I
dont think over the limit. If it is, a 17x13 or 17x14 would probably do the
trick.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>Gene Maurice<BR>gene.maurice@attbi.com<BR>Plano, TX<BR>AMA
3408<BR>NSRCA 877 </FONT></P> </SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<B>On
Behalf Of </B>Anthony Abdullah<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2003 10:34
AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Mintor eyes
only/Power wish list<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>I am eagerly watching the posts on engines and am very excited about
the choices available. I must say that it says an awful lot about the YS140
DZ 4 stroke that it is even in the same power range or even superior to a
significantly larger 2 stroke. I remember back in the day that
a plane that would fly on a 60 two stroke needed at least a 90 to 120
four stroke to fly. Boy have things changed. I am still sitting on my wallet
with my fingers crossed hoping that YS will introduce a 140 or 160 AR
two stroke. Black machined finned head and all. It will be reliable,
run with the currently available ES and other pipes, Idle smoothly, snap
transition with no mixture change at mid range, spin a 17x12 at 8400
RPMs with a flat torque curve, have a totally linear throttle curve, and
sealed bearings. All for around 4 bills. </DIV>
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<DIV>Then I woke up. <BR><BR><B><I>"Henderson,Eric"
<Eric.Henderson@gartner.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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case you have had enough of this topic just hit CRTL-D<BR><BR>If you have
not had enough, here is today's lunch results.<BR><BR>It was warm and
muggy today after all of the rain. The Mintor had the "target" 17 x 13 APC
strapped on the front. With three gallons through the engine it was time
to really see what the 1.70 was made of! Engine was set at 7,900 rpm on
the ground using Powermaster 15/16. The Hydeout was ready for the ride.
<BR><BR>Here's how it flew P-03, or at least a description of a few of the
maneuvers as I saw them unfold.<BR><BR>Sq. loop on corner - Straight and
level into the 45 climb at 1/3 throttle. Nice even pull. Increase power
around the first corner to 3/4. Perform 1/2 roll and got on to full power
(WOT). Plane continues on at slightly increased and smooth speed with the
real need to back of the gas over the top corner. Long down line 45's and
the engine responds smoothly on the bottom pullout to level. No gurgle.
Upon reflection it was a big loop before I noticed.<BR><BR>Hour glass -
very similar with a lot of grunt on the up 45 line.<BR><BR>All vertical
lines were easy with a big punch over the top of maneuvers such as
Humpty-bumps. The down lines were flown very long to look at speed etc.
The idle can be set low and it does not quit. This helped the down lines
and allowed pull-outs that did not bend the wing tubes. The idle for spin
entry was actually too low and a purr had to be added to both reach the
middle and get the nose up.<BR><BR>The big test was the figure-9 with 3 x
1/2 rolls going up. An entry at 1/4 throttle as I pushed followed by a
incrementing amount of throttle as each 1/2 roll was executed ending in
full throttle over the top of the 9. This was a big 9. Too big for good
points but just right for free adrenaline shots!<BR><BR>So how does it
(1.70) compare with the OS 1.60. About 200 rpm less on the ground but 4.0
oz lighter. Vertical behavior very similar between equal weighted
planes.<BR><BR>So how about the DZ. In the same plane it was clear that
the DZ had the edge in the mid range grunt-dept. Vertical snap rolls were
equal however in vertical line recovery.<BR><BR>In the end it comes down
to probably five things. Price, Serviceability, Reliability, weight and
price. Depending upon what you need you can chose the performance of a 2-c
or a 4-c the personal taste of sound and throttle timing.<BR><BR>I would
run all three for equal fun, but as far as price goes, (The OS in this
case is an FI), the Mintor has a big
edge.<BR><BR>Regards,<BR><BR>Eric.<BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>====================================#
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