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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We all should be. The number of flying sites lost
each year, especially on the east and west coasts due to noise, is a crime. Long
term noise reduction/enforcement for all models should be an AMA priority, plan
and goal. Unfortunately the almighty buck spent on advertising seems to get more
attention and takes priority. Pattern flyers as a community have and should
continue to lead by example in this arena.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ed M.</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=gfowler@raytheon.com href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray E
Fowler</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2003 6:35
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Speaking of power</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Who's pressing for lower
noise? <BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Composites Engineering</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
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<TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B>"wgalligan" <<A
href="mailto:wgalligan@cnbcom.net">wgalligan@cnbcom.net</A>></B></FONT>
<BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>Sent by: <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A></FONT>
<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>05/29/2003 04:10 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1>Please respond to discussion</FONT> <BR></P>
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face=sans-serif size=1> To:
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Subject: Re: Speaking of
power</FONT></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Based on
all other models... our pattern planes are by far the quitest airplanes in the
air. I have seen a few IMAC's that have the noise down some but they
still get a good prop rip at speed. The .15 to .60 size engines make an
iratating high pitch whine.</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2> Why is it
that the pattern planes are some of the quietest yet we are still pressed for
lowering the db even more?</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>WG</FONT> <BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>----- Original Message ----- </FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><B>From:</B> </FONT><A href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><U>Dean Pappas</U></FONT></A><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><B>To:</B> </FONT><A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=blue
size=3><U>discussion@nsrca.org</U></FONT></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3> </FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><B>Sent:</B> Thursday,
May 29, 2003 3:55 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><B>Subject:</B> RE: Speaking of power</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT face=Arial
color=blue size=2>Thank You for making my point Tony ... actually I am even
more concerned with the subjective in-the-air noise.</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=Arial color=blue size=2>I fly at a beautiful and genuinely
noise-sensitive site (1/4 mile from the site of Washington's crossing the of
the Deleware on the Jersey side).</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial color=blue
size=2>I don't even look at the meter anymore: my ears are tougher!</FONT>
<BR><FONT face=Arial color=blue size=2>Dean</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<B><BR>From:</B> Tony Stillman
[mailto:tony@radiosouthrc.com]<B><BR>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 29, 2003 4:17
PM<B><BR>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<B><BR>Subject:</B> Re: Speaking of
power<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Actually, it's 2 db OVER if your
flying at the Team Selection Contest! Yes, these high-power engines turn
bigger props, so noise is a factor...</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3> </FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3>Tony
Stillman<BR>Radio South<BR>3702 N. Pace Blvd.<BR>Pensacola, FL
32505<BR>1-800-962-7802</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue
size=3><U><BR></U></FONT><A href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com/"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=blue
size=3><U>www.radiosouthrc.com</U></FONT></A> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>----- Original Message ----- </FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><B>From:</B> </FONT><A href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><U>Bob Kane</U></FONT></A><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3> </FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><B>To:</B> </FONT><A href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org"><FONT
face="Times New Roman" color=blue
size=3><U>discussion@nsrca.org</U></FONT></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3> </FONT><BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><B>Sent:</B> Thursday,
May 29, 2003 12:09 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3><B>Subject:</B> Speaking of power</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face="Times New Roman" size=3>Has anyone measured the sound levels of the
larger two strokes turning the big props? We measured a YS140DZ with ES
pipe turning a 17X12 APC and came up with 96dB, right on the limit.
Just curious.</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><BR><BR>Bob
Kane</FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue size=3><U><BR></U></FONT><A
href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com"><FONT face="Times New Roman" color=blue
size=3><U>getterflash@yahoo.com</U></FONT></A><FONT face="Times New Roman"
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