<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
<HTML><HEAD>
<META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR>
<STYLE></STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
<DIV><SPAN class=083480717-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>John,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083480717-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Sometimes, all you have to do is show the authorities that you're
cognizant of the problem. You did right to start with something easy to meet. It
still requires some effort, but hey it's worth it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083480717-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Of
course all we do is aimed at satisfying a reasonable neighbor. The noise talk I
give, almost always starts with the story of how I got chased off a field, for a
noise complaint, with a glider. The cop had a good laugh, and promised
that if the old lady ever called again, that they would ignore the call. So my
buddy and I started to fly 1/2-As in the same park. Yes ... a little old lady.
It obviously wasn't the noise, it was that she saw an airplane, and just
couldn't stand the idea that someone was having fun.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083480717-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083480717-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Tony
R., you out there, tell them about the condo owners with the commuter railroad
line right next to them that complained about your field's
noise.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083480717-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=083480717-30052003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Dean</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> John Ferrell
[mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 30, 2003 1:07
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Speaking of
power<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Our club is in the process of trying to add a
second field. This would be on a closed land fill site. As such, the State,
County and all are questioning the noise potential. We chose to submit a copy
of the proposed (current?) IMAC specs because they were endurable for all.
That won't make allof our members happy, but that seems the best
compromise at this time. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>John Ferrell <BR>6241 Phillippi Rd<BR>Julian
NC 27283<BR>Phone: (336)685-9606 <BR><A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A><BR>Dixie
Competition Products<BR>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW<BR>"My Competition is
Not My Enemy"<BR></FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE
style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=gfowler@raytheon.com href="mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com">Gray E
Fowler</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, May 30, 2003 10:49
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Speaking of power</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>One more note about the 103
dB limit... dissapeared were 4 gas planes measured on the ground-no
supersonic prop- 104, 105 106 and 108 dB!</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif
size=2><BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Composites Engineering</FONT> <BR><BR><BR>
<TABLE width="100%">
<TBODY>
<TR vAlign=top>
<TD>
<TD><FONT face=sans-serif size=1><B><A
href="mailto:WHIP23@aol.com">WHIP23@aol.com</A></B></FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1>Sent by: <A
href="mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org">discussion-request@nsrca.org</A></FONT>
<P><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>05/30/2003 09:05 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1>Please respond to discussion</FONT> <BR></P>
<TD><FONT face=Arial size=1>
</FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>
To: discussion@nsrca.org</FONT> <BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=1> cc:
</FONT> <BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=1>
Subject: Re: Speaking of
power</FONT></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR><BR><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>In
a message dated 5/30/03 6:39:27 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
gfowler@raytheon.com writes:<BR></FONT><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>Good
for FAI being 94 dB, but 96 is plenty low. While I was Pres of my club we
passed a noise ordinance rule, measured the same way pattern planes
are.....limit is???? 103 dB!! And this was not politically easy, but at
least it now stops the monster screamers and now when someone has a loud
plane EVERYONE questions is it and we measure.</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=3> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><BR>94 dB is too low considering that
an ARF trainer with a bb .46 is 95-96 dB. Getting a club noise rule in
place is good, but for us a bit late. The gassers already pissed off two
neighbors and now the 94-97 dB plane is a nusiance to them even though those
planes had been flying near their houses for 5 years without any complaints.
I suggest that all clubs get something in place BEFORE the problem starts.
We were proactive and had the rule voted on but not active when the first
major complaint happened. Now it is an on going battle. And like someone
else mentioned...the loud plane disappeared...not come back with a "real
muffler"....just gone and that is fine with the entire Richardson club. By
the way...we also banned props over 22" as they were a huge noise
culprit.<BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical
Engineer<BR>Composites Engineering</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Arial
size=2><BR><BR>I'll "chime" in here. Everyone who thinks they don't
have a noise issue should read this and pass it on the their club officers,
because the reality is that once you get noticed you can't be quiet enough.
This noise thing will be much easier if we are proactive. I know
this is not popular, but it is reality. <BR><BR>Bob Whitacre</FONT>
<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>