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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=169545213-10062003>The
push or pull is not defined if I recall...you may do either (Push back into the
box or pull toward the edge where half rolls are concerned) but the roll on the
up line IS defined as needing to be there. We had NUMEROUS occurances of
the same problem with the same result. Startled contestants learning a
hard lesson.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=169545213-10062003>The
more confusing situation was when the 1/4 - 1/2 - 1/4 roll and the 4-point were
both in the Masters pattern. There were frequent occurances of people
flying the wrong one (swapping the two, or a complete brain glitch and flying
one twice). The debate was whether to downgrade 5 pts for missing a
hesitation (in the case of flying the 1/4-1/2-1/4 instead of a 4-point) as
outlined in the rules, or Zero for flying the wrong manuever. I'm an
advocate of "benefit of the doubt" and chose the 5pt downgrade...but the camp
seemed evenly divided.</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=169545213-10062003> </SPAN>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
Gray E Fowler [mailto:gfowler@raytheon.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 10,
2003 9:31 AM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Scoring
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<BLOCKQUOTE></FONT><BR><FONT face=sans-serif size=2>Gene</FONT> <BR><BR><FONT
face=sans-serif size=2>What were they doing" An outside push over the top?
<BR><BR><BR><BR>Gray Fowler<BR>Principal Chemical Engineer<BR>Composites
Engineering</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>