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In the Masters class at the NATS, the high and low score on each individual maneuver is discarded. It states that right on the score sheet that you receive. <BR>
Therefore, to answer your question, Yes, the zero would be discarded!!<BR>
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The scoring at individual contests is done at the discretion of the CD.<BR>
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Chris <BR>
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In a message dated 6/10/2003 7:18:00 AM Eastern Standard Time, drykert@rochester.rr.com writes:<BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE style="BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px"></FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><B>What I wonder is the results of a sharp judge catching a wrong way horrigan mistake (thus zero) and other judge awards a positive number. Does the matrix look at judge giving the correct zero as being inconsistent. The other judge could be a random number generator..</FONT><FONT COLOR="#000000" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"></B><BR>
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</FONT><FONT COLOR="#0000ff" style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #ffffff" SIZE=3 FAMILY="SANSSERIF" FACE="Arial" LANG="0"><B> Del K. Rykert<BR>
AMA - 8928 <BR>
NSRCA - 473<BR>
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<B>From:</B> <A HREF="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">John Ferrell</A> <BR>
<B>To:</B> <A HREF="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> <BR>
<B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 09, 2003 8:12 PM<BR>
<B>Subject:</B> Re: Scoring Vs Judging<BR>
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Consistant judging is a perpetual problem. I seem to be doing more scoring than competing now days. Judging consistancy is down. After we have a mandatory series of Judging Seminars it always gets better. The scoring software I use lets me choose an "alert level" when the two judges deviate. I keep it set at 2 points and I verify the data was properly keyed in each alert. Some deviations are to be expected, especially those involving box violations. There is a general feeling that the upper class flyers are better judges, but they are no more consistant than those in lower classes. <BR>
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Many (most?) of our best judges are not especially known for their flying skills. In fact, quite a few don't fly at all!<BR>
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John Ferrell <BR>
6241 Phillippi Rd<BR>
Julian NC 27283<BR>
Phone: (336)685-9606 <BR>
<A HREF="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A><BR>
Dixie Competition Products<BR>
NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW<BR>
"My Competition is Not My Enemy"<BR>
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<B>From:</B> <A HREF="mailto:jed241@msn.com">jed241@msn.com</A> <BR>
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<B>Subject:</B> Re: Scoring Vs Judging<BR>
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I agree...<BR>
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If we have consistent judging, then the low average round becomes a product of the environment for the round. More difficult environment should produce a lower scoring round and the weight of the raw point should then be rewarded for doing better than the other pilots.<BR>
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I'm not worried about winning right now. I feel like I've had a real good flight when I survive to fly the next round...<BR>
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Larry<BR>
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