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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=984193620-23062003> Right on Claude!</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Weimer, Claude
[mailto:cweimer@wilkinson-mfg.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, June 23, 2003 12:41
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Snap rolls
(long)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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trying to read more into judging criteria than is there?<SPAN
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The rulebook says simultaneous and I’m
not sure the interpretation means the stall has to come before pitch and roll.
It seems to me the stall is caused by the change in pitch regardless if yaw
and roll are applied at the same time. <SPAN
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size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B>
Patternrules@aol.com [mailto:Patternrules@aol.com]<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Monday, June 23, 2003 11:53
AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
Re: Snap rolls (long)</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-LEFT: 0.5in"><B><FONT face=Arial color=black
size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Rule
book page 78<BR></SPAN></FONT></B><B><FONT face=Arial color=black
FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Snaps-----</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Arial color=black size=2 FAMILY="SANSSERIF"><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">A
snap is a <B><I><U><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">simultaneous</SPAN></U></I></B>,
rapid autorotation in pitch, yaw and roll axes of flight in a stalled wing
attitude. The following criteria apply:<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><BR>OK now here's where Earls explanation comes in:
and he is correct, now it seems that some wording is off in the rules the word
<I><U><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic">simultaneous</SPAN></U></I> should not
be there as in the next sentence it clearly says that (initiated by a rapid
stall of the wing induced by a change in pitch attitude) this tells me I have
been doing this wrong all the time and need to do some work on this
maneuver.<BR><BR>An old fossil head like me it is much easier to do all the
sticks at one time, what I have always looked for is like the description on
the snip, a cone and it is pretty easy to see when someone is rolling out of
the maneuver instead of snapping all the way though. So now all that is left
is to try and get these old hands and mind to relearn something in 3 weeks,
and review the judging tape another
time.</SPAN></B><BR><BR><BR></SPAN></FONT><B><I><FONT face="Courier New"
color=black size=2 FAMILY="FIXED"><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; BACKGROUND: white; COLOR: black; FONT-STYLE: italic; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New'">Thanks<BR>Steve
Maxwell</SPAN></FONT></I></B><FONT color=black><SPAN
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