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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>On the rudder correction after the snap... if it is
neccessary to rudder correct after the snap to keep the proper heading is this
not just an attitude of the airplane and is the attitude of the airplane NOT
downgraded rather a downgrade for a missed heading. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne G.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean Pappas</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Snap rolls (long)</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Try
this on Eric,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
loss of exit heading would a downgrade.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
fact that the plane is yawed in the snap is not. (its
necessary!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Either the plane stabilizes instantaneously by iteslf, or the pilot
helps it lock back onto the original track, seamlessly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>OPINION ALERT!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
think that the skillful correction is not a downgrade. It has to look
seamless, though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If
the snap obviously stops and then (after a discernable pause) a goodly whack
of rudder is applied, then that is a downgrade.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dean Pappas</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric
[mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 24, 2003
2:57 PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Snap rolls
(long)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=493444318-24062003> Although it is important to focus on the
entry of a snap, a zero is more often earned on the exit of a snap. A single
snap is hard to roll out of, but a snap and a half often results in a roll
on the last half roll. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=493444318-24062003>The snap will often slow down towards the end
making the snap look like it is rolling out a little. Try not to misjudge
that occurrence. Do look for axially on the last 200 degrees. If it is a
roll, give it a goose egg. If you are not sure it is roll then score
it..You don't have time to analyze the thing...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=493444318-24062003>I
have shown snap rolls to pilots on my TV and they said, "That was not a
snap", and then I ran the same snap in slo-mo, and it was clearly a
perfect snap. This thing is hard to judge. A lot goes on in a second or
less. Whatever you do, don't blink. I'm serious. You will miss the
moment.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=493444318-24062003>One thing that I am not so sure about is the pilot
who can kick in some rudder that straightens the snap out just as it stops.
Downgrade or not??</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=493444318-24062003>Eric.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>