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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I thought the *whole idea* was to apply
"skillful corrections" so that THEY CAN'T be seen....leading to the "if the
judge doesn't see it, it can't be scored (up OR down)"</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>True/False ??</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma<BR>NSRCA 199, IMAC 1320, AMA 46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=d.pappas@kodeos.com href="mailto:d.pappas@kodeos.com">Dean Pappas</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 24, 2003 2:03
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Snap rolls (long)</DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Try
this on Eric,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
loss of exit heading would a downgrade.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The
fact that the plane is yawed in the snap is not. (its
necessary!)</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Either the plane stabilizes instantaneously by iteslf, or the pilot
helps it lock back onto the original track, seamlessly.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>OPINION ALERT!</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I
think that the skillful correction is not a downgrade. It has to look
seamless, though.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If
the snap obviously stops and then (after a discernable pause) a goodly whack
of rudder is applied, then that is a downgrade.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=622205818-24062003> <FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Dean Pappas</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Henderson,Eric
[mailto:Eric.Henderson@gartner.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 24, 2003
2:57 PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: Snap rolls
(long)<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=493444318-24062003> Although it is important to focus on the
entry of a snap, a zero is more often earned on the exit of a snap. A single
snap is hard to roll out of, but a snap and a half often results in a roll
on the last half roll. </SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=493444318-24062003>The snap will often slow down towards the end
making the snap look like it is rolling out a little. Try not to misjudge
that occurrence. Do look for axially on the last 200 degrees. If it is a
roll, give it a goose egg. If you are not sure it is roll then score
it..You don't have time to analyze the thing...</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=493444318-24062003>I
have shown snap rolls to pilots on my TV and they said, "That was not a
snap", and then I ran the same snap in slo-mo, and it was clearly a
perfect snap. This thing is hard to judge. A lot goes on in a second or
less. Whatever you do, don't blink. I'm serious. You will miss the
moment.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=493444318-24062003>One thing that I am not so sure about is the pilot
who can kick in some rudder that straightens the snap out just as it stops.
Downgrade or not??</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=493444318-24062003>Eric.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>