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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#0000ff>I agree with Ron and if
you want to try something else slick add the elevator while in knife edge to
make subtle track corrections that aren't easily spotted.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Del K. Rykert<BR> AMA - 8928
<BR> NSRCA - 473<BR> Kb2joi -
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ronlock@comcast.net href="mailto:ronlock@comcast.net">Ron
Lockhart</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:33
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: intermediate 402 rolling
suggestions</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Let me suggest an alternative and more subtle
approach-<BR><BR>Start feeding in a tiny bit of down elevator as the<BR>plane
has rolled about 135 degrees, by the time the<BR>plane gets to 180 degrees
have in as much elevator as<BR>it takes to be level inverted or a touch nose
high. <BR>As plane passes through 180 degrees of roll, start <BR>taking
out the down elevator so that it gone at <BR>about 225 degrees of roll.
<BR><BR>And maybe a secret - Use some "up" elvator. <BR>As plane
completes about 315 degrees of<BR>roll, start adding a tiny bit of up elevator
increasing<BR>gradually so that when plane finishes 360 degrees of<BR>roll,
nose is a touch higher than level to correct for<BR>the nose down attitude it
may have gotten during the roll.<BR>Get out of the up elevator by the time the
plane is<BR>45 degrees into the second roll. <BR><BR>Practice a
couple of mistakes high.<BR><BR>Whew. It could be worse. A couple
of years ago the <BR>maneuver was "three" consecutive
rolls.<BR><BR>Later, Ron Lockhart<BR><BR><BR>----- Original Message
-----<BR>From: D Suding <<A
href="mailto:junk@velocitus.net">junk@velocitus.net</A>><BR>Date: Thursday,
June 26, 2003 1:54 pm<BR>Subject: Re: intermediate 402 rolling
suggestions<BR><BR>> I noticed something in the Intermediate class while I
was judging in<BR>> Albuquerque. The two horizontal rolls looked bad even
when <BR>> performed by<BR>> the best pilots. I think I know
why.<BR>> <BR>> First, you can't just throw the stick to the right or
left and <BR>> wait for<BR>> plane to roll 720 degrees. It will lose too
much altitude. You need<BR>> elevator.<BR>> <BR>> Second, you
don't start feeding the elevator when the plane gets <BR>> past 90<BR>>
degrees. This will make the plane cork-screw. I kept seeing this.
<BR>> The<BR>> plane would roll 90 degrees, and the pilot would feed
some elevator,<BR>> increasing as it went to 180, then decreasing as it
followed <BR>> through to<BR>> 270 and so on.<BR>> <BR>> Here's
what you do:<BR>> <BR>> 1) Find a roll rate that takes about 1.5 seconds
to roll 360 degrees.<BR>> <BR>> 2) Here's the trick: DON'T ADD ANY
ELEVATOR EXCEPT AT 180 and 360<BR>> DEGREES!!!!! When the plane gets to
180, give it a SHORT, SHARP down<BR>> elevator to pitch the nose up to
level. Then at 360 degrees, give <BR>> it a<BR>> SHORT, SHARP up
elevator to pitch the nose up again.<BR>> <BR>> Of course, to get picky,
you actually start feeding elevator at ~175<BR>> degrees, but the key is to
really limit the duration of the <BR>> elevator input<BR>> so that your
purpose is to correct for the effects of gravity only.<BR>> <BR>> 3)
Practice one thousand times.<BR>> <BR>> Hope this helps.<BR>>
<BR>> -Dennis<BR>> <BR>>
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