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<DIV><SPAN class=829234700-30062003><FONT face=verdana>Jim</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=829234700-30062003><FONT face=verdana>Sure will, if I can get
the right system. I think this would be great data.. Tools... not toys...
remember</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=829234700-30062003><FONT face=verdana>Bryan</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>jim ivey<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:50
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Flight Data
Recorder<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Uh OH Bryan will have one of these before ya know it.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim I</DIV>
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Bryan Kennedy</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 29, 2003 8:41
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<DIV><SPAN class=791312800-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Great
feedback. I have seen this item and have been planning on calling them. I
think they need to interface it with G2 flight sim to give you a complete
playback. I assume all you see is the stick movements form the info I have
seen on the web.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=791312800-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Looks
like this could be a real learning tool if we could integrate it into some
package (like G2) that would show us not only a front view (ie. Box)
but a top view (ie. 150m) maybe the next step is to add
GPS.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=791312800-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>It sure
would be nice to download each round and analyze the
info..</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=791312800-30062003><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff>Bryan</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=791312800-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>NSRCA
1744</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=791312800-30062003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>AMA
1744</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT
face=Tahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>
discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>EHaury@aol.com<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, June 29, 2003 1:26
PM<BR><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> Flight Data
Recorder<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=arial,helvetica><FONT lang=0
face=Arial FAMILY="SANSSERIF">An ad in the latest MA by Eagle Tree Systems
for a Flight Data Recorder attracted my attention. Being able to record
airspeed / altitude / servo commands, etc., for review after a flight
would seem to be a useful tool for pattern and this device is advertised
to do just that for a reasonable price ($150). Details are at:
www.eagletreesystems.com<BR><BR>The first good sign is service, ordered
Tues. morning and received Fri. Second good sign is that the software
loaded on my PC without a hitch. The recorder calibrated as described and
was in a Hydeout and in the air in no time (still Friday). Lastly, data
from the flight transferred to my PC for evaluation. (A supplied USB cord
between the recorder and PC.)<BR><BR>It's tricky to interpret the data
from the supplied graphics in that you need to figure out just where in
the pattern the data were generated. I flew a take off sequence with a
level 180 to enter the pattern, so altitude data were consistent for a
while and the first pull-up was obvious. With the playback on slo-mo,
altitude changes and elevator inputs allow one to follow a pattern pretty
well.<BR><BR>The data can be transferred to Excel and manipulated to
provide graphics of the data of interest. It took about 45 min. to build
charts of airspeed, elev, and altitude for the Square on Corner (I'm a bit
Excel rusty). The data clearly show the entry altitude, the altitude
gained (or lost) between elevator inputs, max altitude, finish altitude,
and the airspeed through the maneuver. Pretty nifty!<BR><BR>The device
comes set to capture data at the rate of 4/sec which will give 22 min. of
record. I found that 8/sec is probably better for our use (10/sec max
available) and that will give about 13 min of record. When the buffer is
full it stops collecting until reset. I've made no effort to verify speed
and altitude measurements except that with the recommended altitude
calibration it knows the runway is 0 altitude. (Relative numbers are of
good value anyway.)<BR><BR>Overall this device looks to be a useful tool
to help one improve practice sessions. There is no realtime downlink or
closed loop control, so nothing outside the rules. (Hmmm - judge thinks
entry and exit altitudes differ, wonder if he / she would like to see the
real numbers?)
<BR><BR>Earl<BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></FONT></FONT></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>