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<DIV><STRONG><FONT face="MS Sans Serif" color=#0000ff>IMHO, when said
video is finished it has to show an accurate fair showing of the different
visual images that are acceptable and possibly what's not so as to not slight
those whose planes do a proper maneuver but visually appears different. E.G.
Bipe vs. Low wing vs. 60 sized model.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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Del K. Rykert<BR> AMA - 8928
<BR> NSRCA - 473<BR> Kb2joi -
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=billglaze@triad.rr.com href="mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com">Bill
Glaze</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:31
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Snaps</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>Thanks, Tony, I had wondered about what had happened. A
video like this could be very beneficial, but could also be hard to
produce. Another organization of which I was a board member, had a
commercial company video a judges seminar, and a field session of
flying. The tape cost the organization $500, and was nearly
worthless. Lesson learned. <BR>I hope a tape of parallel quality to the
existing NSRCA tape on judging, can be produced.
<P>Bill Glaze
<P>Tony Stillman wrote:
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size=-1>Bill:</FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Some funding
had been approved and budgeted for, but the actual video turned out much
harder to make than was originally expected. This issue will be discussed in
the Annual NSRCA Board Meeting at the Nats next
week.</FONT></FONT> Tony Stillman <BR>Radio South <BR>3702 N. Pace
Blvd. <BR>Pensacola, FL 32505 <BR>1-800-962-7802 <BR><A
href="http://www.radiosouthrc.com">www.radiosouthrc.com</A>
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<A title=billglaze@triad.rr.com href="mailto:billglaze@triad.rr.com">Bill
Glaze</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 27, 2003 2:22
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Snaps</DIV> It
seems to me that the NSRCA was working on a spin/snaproll video last
year. It mad a splash on this group, and then faded into
oblivion. Anybody remember it? Or know what happened to it?
<P>Bill Glaze
<P>Mike Turgeman wrote:
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<FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>I agree with you. That's why I think a
video will help all of us to understand the discussed issues better. I
hope that there will be more than one video clip.The main thing I would
like to here comments about is the amount of attitude change needed
during the snap. Obviously the airplane must be stalled but no one is
flying with AOA sensor on board so the pilot and the judges have to
estimate the stall visually. I am interested to see what they expect and
how they estimate it.Mike</FONT></FONT>
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<DIV
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<A title=drykert@rochester.rr.com
href="mailto:drykert@rochester.rr.com">Del Rykert</A></DIV>
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href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 27, 2003 4:13
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re:
Re:Snaps</DIV> <B><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"><FONT
color=#0000ff>Good idea Mike but I have found video can sometimes be
misleading as different aircraft present so differently in some ways
regarding the snap. This thread has helped show just how challenging
it is to judge and fly correctly.</FONT></FONT></B> <B><FONT
face="MS Sans Serif"><FONT color=#0000ff> Del
K. Rykert</FONT></FONT></B> <BR><B><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"><FONT
color=#0000ff> AMA - 8928</FONT></FONT></B>
<BR><B><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"><FONT
color=#0000ff> NSRCA - 473</FONT></FONT></B>
<BR><B><FONT face="MS Sans Serif"><FONT
color=#0000ff> Kb2joi -
General</FONT></FONT></B>
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<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=mike@bartan.com href="mailto:mike@bartan.com">Mike
Turgeman</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A></DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 26, 2003
12:33 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
Re:Snaps</DIV> <FONT face=Arial><FONT size=-1>Hi all,Very
interesting discussion on a very important issue. As Earl mentioned
sometimes a good snap is misjudged because we are used to see the
bad one. I think so too. Most of the judges expect too much attitude
change and score zero for snaps with small attitude change because
they consider it as an axial roll.Maybe someone could post a short
video that demonstrate how a real 1 1/2 snap should look like.Mike
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