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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Maybe its like Miller Lite in the clear
bottle. Goes skunky after setting in the light.
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>I never keep more then 3-4 gallons of fuel around at one
time. Knowing how much alchohol absorbs moisture is enough for me to buy
fresh stuff.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Having been around the gasoline biz and car business for
many years has also taught me that fuel left for extended periods will almost
always give you some kind of fits on performance type
engines(varnishing,separation of additives, mositure absortion,etc.,etc.)
Why would model airplane fuel be any different? Achohol is less
tolerant of the way it is handled then gasoline, especialy in humid
areas. I would NEVER keep model fuel more then one year. But
then, I wouldnt be flying much if I did.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>Wayne G.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><B>-----Original Message-----</B><BR><B>From:
</B>jim ivey <<A
href="mailto:jivey61@msn.com">jivey61@msn.com</A>><BR><B>To:
</B>discussion <<A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A>><BR><B>Date:
</B>Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:10 PM<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: Fuel
Question...Age?<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV> My experience with bad fuel was on a 2 stroke K&B 61. All of
a sudden the engine would not idle and would not run at full throttle very
well. The fuel was 3 years old and immediately a suspect, because I had just
changed to it. I don't know if it was sour or had excess moisture in it. It
had been stored in the basement. Anyway it was used to kill the weeds at the
flying field.</DIV>
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<DIV>Jim Ivey</DIV>
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John Ferrell</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:46
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fuel
Question...Age?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I keep 0%-all Synthetic oil, Red Max
in jugs for quite a while(2-3 years). I mix it down to 10 or 15% using
the same 20% fuel with no problem. The Red Max red dye goes clear the
first summer in the fuel shed. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you think it is losing methanol or nitro
that would just make it oil rich, not usually a big
problem.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I never have got around to the matter of
water testing. I have sometimes thought about testing with controlled
amounts of water in the fuel just to see how much makes a
difference.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It has been my experience that when an
otherwise good engine starts getting picky about the fuel, it is running
warmer than it used to. In my case it was bearings...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That is, as I recall...</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell <BR>6241 Phillippi Rd<BR>Julian NC 27283<BR>Phone:
(336)685-9606 <BR><A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A><BR>Dixie
Competition Products<BR>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW<BR>"My
Competition is Not My Enemy"<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net" title=rcaerobob@cox.net>Bob
Pastorello</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org"
title=discussion@nsrca.org>NSRCAMail</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 05, 2003
5:50 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fuel
Question...Age?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know this is a newbie kind of
question...but I've never run into this before. Sealed (good
caps, tight) jugs in the dark, Mag 1/10% mix that I use all the
time.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Ran my 1.60 fine on
the ground, but couldn't get a needle, and sounded lean at high end
in flight; even dead sticked a couple times.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Changed to a jug of
fresh Ritch's Brew 15% (should have been about the same nitro) and
it ran a lot better, had needle range, didn't try to
overheat.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What can happen to sealed jugs, kept in
temp.controlled, dark box....??</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>
<DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma<BR>NSRCA 199, IMAC 1320, AMA
46373<BR><A
href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A
href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV>
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