<HTML><BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff" STYLE="font:10pt verdana; border:none;background-color:#ffffff; "><DIV> My experience with bad fuel was on a 2 stroke K&B 61. All of a sudden the engine would not idle and would not run at full throttle very well. The fuel was 3 years old and immediately a suspect, because I had just changed to it. I don't know if it was sour or had excess moisture in it. It had been stored in the basement. Anyway it was used to kill the weeds at the flying field.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jim Ivey</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial">----- Original Message -----</DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt Arial; COLOR: black"><B>From:</B> John Ferrell</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 05, 2003 7:46 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>To:</B> discussion@nsrca.org</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt Arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Fuel Question...Age?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I keep 0%-all Synthetic oil, Red Max in jugs for quite a while(2-3 years). I mix it down to 10 or 15% using the same 20% fuel with no problem. The Red Max red dye goes clear the first summer in the fuel shed. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you think it is losing methanol or nitro that would just make it oil rich, not usually a big problem.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I never have got around to the matter of water testing. I have sometimes thought about testing with controlled amounts of water in the fuel just to see how much makes a difference.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It has been my experience that when an otherwise good engine starts getting picky about the fuel, it is running warmer than it used to. In my case it was bearings...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That is, as I recall...</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>John Ferrell <BR>6241 Phillippi Rd<BR>Julian NC 27283<BR>Phone: (336)685-9606 <BR><A href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A><BR>Dixie Competition Products<BR>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW<BR>"My Competition is Not My Enemy"<BR></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rcaerobob@cox.net href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">Bob Pastorello</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">NSRCAMail</A> </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, July 05, 2003 5:50 PM</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Fuel Question...Age?</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I know this is a newbie kind of question...but I've never run into this before. Sealed (good caps, tight) jugs in the dark, Mag 1/10% mix that I use all the time.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Ran my 1.60 fine on the ground, but couldn't get a needle, and sounded lean at high end in flight; even dead sticked a couple times.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> Changed to a jug of fresh Ritch's Brew 15% (should have been about the same nitro) and it ran a lot better, had needle range, didn't try to overheat.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>What can happen to sealed jugs, kept in temp.controlled, dark box....??</FONT></DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <DIV><BR>Bob Pastorello, Oklahoma<BR>NSRCA 199, IMAC 1320, AMA 46373<BR><A href="mailto:rcaerobob@cox.net">rcaerobob@cox.net</A><BR><A href="http://www.rcaerobats.net/">www.rcaerobats.net</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>