<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">A good argument for plastic jugs.........If you have a fire and have metal cans ...the cans will remain and your insurance company will give you grief (thats their job)....if you have plastic jugs all the evidence will melt and burn away. Methanol is not nearly as volatile as gasoline, and therefore is harder to light by flame and really tough by spark. Nitro even harder (ever seen a top fuel dragster spitting fuel out the exhaust cuz one cylinder would not light). All the gasoline, and paint solvents are much worse, and frankly if you have a fire in your house big enough to melt and light a jug of fuel (aint gonna explode in a jug) you are toast anyway.......and so is your house...with or without the fuel.....the fuel just "accelerates" the whole situation.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">As far as the furnace dude saying it was a bomb....no offense to furnace dudes but I would trust the opinion of a dishwasher repairman more, because everyone knows they are much more educated on the flash points of solvents than furnace guys are-right? </font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">The world is full of stupid inconsistent legalistic crap. All sorts of chemicals have been regulated or eliminated because thay are deemed "carcinogenic", yet gasoline is not.......which has a fair portion of benzene it it which is garaunteed cancer....the public cannot buy benzene for this reason yet everytime you fill up your car you breath benzene. </font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">In short plastic jugs are fine, just do not store next to your furnace, BBQ pit, hot water heater, etc. How many homes burned down last year due to model airplane fuel vs. Christmas trees? Yet no one bans lights an Christmas trees now do they?????<br>
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Gray Fowler<br>
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Composites Engineering</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">Don't Ask, don't tell. Especially your wife. The guy who service our<br>
furnace several years ago told my wife I was keeping a bomb in the<br>
basement after he saw a jug of fuel. It took quite a bit of talking to<br>
fix that one.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: discussion-request@nsrca.org [mailto:discussion-request@nsrca.org]<br>
On Behalf Of Anthony Romano<br>
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 9:43 AM<br>
To: discussion@nsrca.org<br>
Subject: RE: Fuel Question... Why the metal cans?<br>
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A local hobby shop owner told me he was limited by the local fire<br>
marshal in <br>
how much fuel he could keep in the store. Anyone know any easy, <br>
inconspicuous way to check this for a residence?<br>
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Anthony<br>
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>From: "Atwood, Mark" <atwoodm@paragon-inc.com><br>
>Reply-To: discussion@nsrca.org<br>
>To: <discussion@nsrca.org><br>
>Subject: RE: Fuel Question... Why the metal cans?<br>
>Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2003 21:50:52 -0400<br>
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>Shipping in quarts will allow you to ship UPS without the $5/gal<br>
haz-mat <br>
>fee. Most of the time though the fuel is shipped by motor freight,<br>
which <br>
>has similar regs, but different fees. If you're shipping more than <br>
>#200lbs, (roughly 40gal), it's much cheaper to go freight.<br>
><br>
>Non of these were PowerMasters motivation though...it was simply the<br>
fire <br>
>code issues. They spent considerable money revamping their assemblys<br>
to <br>
>fit the cans from the jugs. All cost they would have preferred to<br>
skip. <br>
>The benefits of size and packing just made the move more palatible.<br>
><br>
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>-----Original Message-----<br>
>From: T&C Brown [mailto:tncbrown@charter.net]<br>
>Sent: Sun 7/6/2003 10:34 PM<br>
>To: discussion@nsrca.org<br>
>Cc:<br>
>Subject: Re: Fuel Question... Why the metal cans?<br>
><br>
>I believe Red Max shipped fuel in quarts is because of the Haz-mat<br>
dilemma. <br>
> But I could be mistaken. Also, at one time, Power Master was doing<br>
it as <br>
>well.<br>
> ----- Original Message -----<br>
> From: RUDDERCABL@aol.com<br>
> To: discussion@nsrca.org<br>
> Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 8:06 PM<br>
> Subject: Re: Fuel Question... Why the metal cans?<br>
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> In a message dated 7/6/2003 5:30:46 PM Eastern Standard Time, <br>
>ArestiPattern@aol.com writes:<br>
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> Added benefit to cans........UV protection, and Powermaster ships<br>
6 <br>
>gallons to a case instead of 4 of the plastic bottles.<br>
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> I believe that you have hit on one of the real reasons why the<br>
can . <br>
>Becouse of the shape of the cans , more fuel can be shipped in the same<br>
<br>
>size or slightly larger box. Much money is saved on shipping one box <br>
>instead of two and the manufactor sells more fuel to the case. Red Max<br>
was <br>
>doing the same thing using quart size bottles and shipping five gallons<br>
to <br>
>the case .<br>
><br>
> Over the last few years , myself and a couple of other flyers<br>
have <br>
>been buying fuel by the drum . We tap the drum and pour all the fuel<br>
off <br>
>into jugs at one time . Never had any problems with the fuel in four<br>
years <br>
>of doing this .<br>
><br>
> Robert Gainey<br>
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><< winmail.dat >><br>
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