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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jeff Hughes has a neat installation on his Jupiter,
like the Sig Kougar uses (and others I imagine). Torque blocks in the wing
and a wire gear. Maybe he could give some details on torque block
installation and landing gear wire size, etc. He told me about it at
the D4 and D5 shootout.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>By the way Jeff, I have just about finished
the re-installation of the fuse mounted fixed gear in the Finesse. 3 times
I have knocked it off. I think the next fixed gear will be wing mounted
like your Jupiter.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Bruce</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=wgalligan@goodsonacura.com
href="mailto:wgalligan@goodsonacura.com">Wayne Galligan</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 4:04
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nats airplane only wieghts about 8lbs and is
powered by a .91 size engine. The l.g. struts come out of the wing much
like a torsion bar type l.g. I am not sure how it is mounted in the wing
though. It is however a rather novel idea. His stuff is on the
edge in design and asthetics but it really flies good. The "Vodoo
Magic" flown by Todd Blose would do everything in the book you could
throw at it.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Wayne G.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=scully01@cvtv.net href="mailto:scully01@cvtv.net">calvin scully</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 1:53
PM</DIV>
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retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Would like to see detail of how Nat Penton uses
CF rods to accomodate a 10 to 11 lb model airplane. Like Mr. Ferrell I am
interested.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=johnferrell@earthlink.net
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">John Ferrell</A> </DIV>
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href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:56
AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Keep the articles coming!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>If you have a pointer to a picture of the
Carbon tubing gear I am sure I am not the only one
interested.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am in total agreement that it is better to
make our planes serviceable rather than indestructible!</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>John Ferrell <BR>6241 Phillippi Rd<BR>Julian NC 27283<BR>Phone:
(336)685-9606 <BR><A
href="mailto:johnferrell@earthlink.net">johnferrell@earthlink.net</A><BR>Dixie
Competition Products<BR>NSRCA 479 AMA 4190 W8CCW<BR>"My Competition
is Not My Enemy"<BR></DIV>
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<A title=Rcmaster199@aol.com
href="mailto:Rcmaster199@aol.com">Rcmaster199@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=discussion@nsrca.org
href="mailto:discussion@nsrca.org">discussion@nsrca.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 16, 2003 8:39
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: fixed gear vs.
retracts</DIV>
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FAMILY="SANSSERIF">The composite fixed gear designs of today are quite
the overkill in terms of strength, rigidity and weight. They could be
made far lighter, less rigid and cheaply enough where, as they break on
a hard landing, simply pull the pieces out and toss them. <BR><BR>My
good friend Nat Penton is using regular carbon tubing material for the
struts, and uses a short piece of aluminum rod epoxied in the tube, to
serve as wheel axle. A quick wrapping of kevlar thread, super glued on
the carbon tube where the axle in epoxied, keeps the tube
intact.<BR><BR>He is reporting that the struts weigh in at less than 1
oz for both, with the farings installed to a fully airfoiled section,
without the wheels. The length is 10 inches.<BR><BR>Matt<BR><BR>PS- I
prefer retracts to fixed gear for pattern planes except they are too
heavyat around 6 ozs sans wheels. <BR><BR>My composite gear that I make,
come in at about 4 ozs with pants, for the pair, sans wheels, but will
be using Nat's technique to reduce the weight further with little
compromise in strength. I'll probably write about it for the KF. If you
have been following my writings you should have learned that I have been
keeping no
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